Resonance – Episode 51
Verbatim Transcript
Speaker: Viktoria Levenberg
Guest Speaker: Gillian Jakob Kieser
Gillian Jakob Kieser: I was maxed out. I was at, yeah, working hundred percent capacity with no
buffer.
It’s still a challenge, you know, getting everything done. How do I do stuff faster?
I mean, easy feels dangerous.
Viktoria Levenberg: You’re not gonna miraculously heal overnight. Change takes time.
If you wanna live a simple life, you can stick with your chaotic systems. But if you wanna level up
and actually fulfil your peak potential, then time to change, you know.
Gillian Jakob Kieser: When I found your work and got myself into Efficiency Made Easy, it was the
perfect time.
Viktoria Levenberg: If you’re a high achiever who is maxed out, but you don’t want to sacrifice
your big goals, then this episode is for you. I am honestly so excited about this. You are gonna
hear from one of our Efficiency Made Easy alumni, Gillian Jakob Kieser, about her experience
inside my signature program, and she’s gonna tell you all about how she went from chaos and
overwhelm to calm, structured, high-performance flow so that you can see that it is possible for
you too. Yes, you can get your work done more efficiently and have time back for doing the
things that you love. So without further ado, let’s begin.
Viktoria Levenberg: Welcome to Resonance, the podcast for high performers and entrepreneurs
who wanna do life, work, and success differently. I am your host, Viktoria Levenberg, and I’m
obsessed with efficiency, productivity, and planning in a way that harnesses your energy and your
natural rhythms while keeping you in alignment and integrity. Because I have figured out that
lasting success is not about the hustle. It is about being in resonance. Let’s begin.
Viktoria Levenberg: I am so excited to bring Gillian to you because she is not only a dear friend
and a colleague, you know, we share a business coach together, but she’s also a client of mine.
And in fact, she is the person who inspired the transformation and the transition into Efficiency
Made Easy. You know, I used to work in health and wellness and be sort of really deeply into the
nervous system and stress management world. And thanks to a lot of the conversations that her
and I had late last year into the transition into the New Year, I realised that my true calling and
the gifts, the secrets that I have to share with my students are very much around performance,
productivity, planning, all things that I had taken for granted for so long. And finally through
Efficiency Made Easy, which I have packaged into a complete system that really enables you to
plan in alignment with your values, discern what’s important and what isn’t, and zoom out and
see the big picture of you so that you can, yes, achieve your biggest goals and your wildest
dreams, and also still have time left for the things that actually matter in your life, like doing
things you love, spending quality time with the people who are important to you, all those things
that often fall to the bottom of the to do list for most of us, but not Gillian because she decided
to join Efficiency Made Easy and she has had so many breakthroughs and AHAs. So without
further ado, I would love to introduce you to Gillian. Enjoy the episode.
Viktoria Levenberg: Welcome, Gillian. Thank you so much for coming on to Resonance. I mean,
I’ve told you this before, but I am so incredibly grateful and humbled that you’re gonna share
your story and it’s gonna be so much fun to have you on this podcast because wow, you have
been the muse, you have been the inspiration, and you have been the catalyst for a lot of what
has unfolded in the last three to four months.
Gillian Jakob Kieser: I thank you for having me. Also, sorry everybody for unleashing the beast.
Um hahaha. I don’t know. I’m honoured to hear you say that. And also, like, I’m always reflecting
back what I see in you in terms of your incredible strengths and gifts that I think sometimes for all
of us, it’s hard to see the gifts that we have from inside. It’s hard to read the label from inside the
jar. But yeah, this is, as I’ve seen you develop this program, it’s just been like, this is so in line
with, I know, your mission and your vision of the impact you wanna create for the world. But as
someone who, I don’t know, I’m a high-achieving woman, these were the problems that were
really standing in my way from becoming and being able to receive all this amazing stuff that you
have. There were these very earthbound problems that I was suffering from, and I know many
other people suffer from, in terms of just having a lot on our plates and needing to get a lot of
things done. And so you creating the program the way that you did really gets us, it helped get
me moving and able to manage a lot of the things that I already had going on, and it made it feel
possible for me to see out beyond, like, just the next horizon of, like, accomplishing this week’s
to-dos. And that is a huge gift.
Viktoria Levenberg: Yes. Yes. I love that you say that. And you know, as a high-achieving woman,
you know everything that’s also just come through is that you didn’t have to sacrifice your
ambition or your goals or anything as a result because that’s often the misconception in this
space, is that like, oh great, do less means achieve less. And that’s sort of, we’ll get into it in a bit,
but that’s not quite what we’re talking about here. And before I dive in and kind of have you
really share your experience inside Efficiency Made Easy, would you be able to just introduce
yourself to our listeners? You know, tell us a little bit about who you are, what you do, and what
keeps you so busy day to day?
Gillian Jakob Kieser: Um yeah, sure. So I’m, I’ve got a few things going on. I’ve got a business
where I’m a style coach and I help women who have been overlooked and do not quite see
themselves in the mainstream world of style advice and fashion advice. I help them find their
own personal style that’s unique to them and really reflects their personality. Um beyond that, I
also have a full-time corporate job. I’m a director in a software company, and so that also keeps
me very, very busy. Um and so both of those are really important to me, and learning how to
balance the things that I do in my job, you know, to keep my company working, to keep making
impact, and keep that sustainable income for my family while building this business on the side
was definitely, felt like a juggling act all the time. And so, you know, when I found your work and
got myself into Efficiency Made Easy, it was the perfect time because I was really at, at, I wouldn’t
say a breaking point, but like, I was maxed out. I was at, yeah, working hundred percent capacity
with no buffer. And so I really wanted to be able to not only sustain what I was trying to do, but
also be able to do more and grow my capacity. And so that was perfect timing to come into your
work.
Viktoria Levenberg: Yes, and it was divine unfoldings and some really crazy stories that really kind
of birthed this work as well. Um it’s a lot. Like you’re basically juggling two senior-level roles plus
also one of the things you didn’t mention is you also have a family, right? You’re a mom and you
live on a property that includes a lot of additional maintenance etcetera. So there’s a lot going
on. Like, could you tell me a bit about sort of the dynamics and your roles as a woman in the
house as well? Cause I think a lot of women will relate to this.
Gillian Jakob Kieser: Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I’m the core breadwinner in my family. And so, like I
said, I have a full-time job as well as building a business on the side. And I have a child who’s six
years old who needs a lot of me still in terms of emotional, you know, social quality time
together. And I didn’t want anything I was doing to get in the way of spending that time with her
because though this time is fleeting. And I would say, like, I didn’t want to win the booby prize of,
like, succeeding in business and compromising my closeness and connection with my kid and my
family. Um so I am very blessed to have an extremely supportive husband who’s incredible at
housework, cooking, child care, all of those things. So…
Viktoria Levenberg: Shout out Evan.
Gillian Jakob Kieser: Definitely. Yes, shout out Evan, best husband of all time.And even still with
that, it’s still a challenge, you know, getting everything done. And so, yeah, I was very aware of
not wanting to ask too much, do you know what I mean? Like, he’ll do anything and he’ll take
over any task that I ask him to cause he’s amazing. And I wanted to be conscious of my own
boundaries and values in terms of how I wanna show up in my family. Even if he would say yes to
take over this or take our kid to school or whatever, you know, like there’s certain things like I
wanna take her to school every day cause she likes when I take her to school and that gives us
time to chat and connect. Like, that’s important to my life. And I think one of the amazing things
about working with you and your program was really encouraging us to look at our values as a
way of assessing where we’re spending our time, not just trying to get more done all the time.
But it really encouraged me to think about, like, how to plan my life so I’m living it the exact way
that I want to.
Viktoria Levenberg: Yes, yeah. And that’s a constant dance, right? Because like our values evolve
with us. Yes, we do have some core values that kind of always stay the same, and our life
circumstances will constantly test us. Like I’m no saint to myself. This is a real-time example. Um
Cam, my partner, surprise-slash invited me to like a beautiful lunch that we’re going to today and
like one of the fanciest restaurants in New Zealand and in Auckland here. And I had such a hard
time receiving that because it’s the same programming that runs in that achievement brains. Like
okay, well that means like three to four hours out of the day that I had planned to do work. And
also like, oh my gosh, who am I? I don’t deserve this, la la la.
It was like such an interesting experience to witness and then kind of take that step back and be
like, hang on a second. This is actually so in alignment with my values, and this is the thing I say I
want, so why is it so hard to let myself have it? Which is totally yeah. It never ends, yeah.
Gillian Jakob Kieser: No, it's a constant practice, and I think that's another thing I've really started
looking at in my own, from the work that I've learned from and like in my own daily process of
planning, reflecting, planning, reflecting, looking for those incremental wins, looking for those
like changes in self talk like, oh yeah this is, you know like I can see my impulse and then be able
to question it and be like actually, isn't this what you say you wanted? What would it feel like to
give it a try? And I know that that's how change happens, and it feels uncomfortable in those
little moments.
Viktoria Levenberg: Haha exactly. It's sort of like because we're so used to our old ways, they're
so ingrained. It's almost like you're kind of coming out of your own skin in a way. It's sort of like
eek. And yet, you know, so often we've just gone after that impulse and chased it and somehow
made things work and somehow pulled something out of the hat rather than questioning why
we're doing it.
Gillian Jakob Kieser: Totally. Like perfect example from this week. I had my weekly to-do list. I had
all my tasks, you know, like ranked and set up and all the stuff, and I got to today, it's Friday when
we're recording this, and I'm looking at my list going like, oh, I didn't get to write this renewal
email copy. And like instead of being like okay get it done, I was like this doesn't need to happen
until next spring. Like I don't need to do this this week. And I just crossed it off. I put it on my
other list so I don't lose it forever, but I was like I'm just not doing this this week. And that, that
was a huge shift from what I would have done before our work together, where every time I had
an idea it would just go on the to-do list, and by the end of the week I wouldn't have gotten it
done, and that would have been a cause for, you know, like self uh reprimand or whatnot. And
now it's like what was that doing there anyway? That was an idea, like not a deadline.
Viktoria Levenberg: Exactly, exactly. And that is such an important distinction. I'm so grateful that
you brought this up because I feel like so many people confabulate ideas with to do's, and that's
why I always talk about like that overflowing to do list that's literally just like a brain dump list of
things that, especially for like generator types or people who are really in tune with their
intuition, you're just gonna have them coming all the time. Then of course it feels overwhelming,
and you don't know what to prioritise, and you feel like failing at the end of every single day
because like well look at all the things I didn't do. And so on that note, I would love for you to
kind of, you know, elaborate on when you said earlier “I was maxed out.” Like what did that look
like for you day to day? Can you describe like a day in the life of Gillian before we began our work
together? And I know we sort of started to twinkle in the world of productivity and planning even
before Efficiency Made Easy. So for those listening, Gillian was really the muse that inspired this
whole movement. We had been talking a lot about the work that I do, and she was able, you
know, to see some of the things that I wasn't able to see being inside the jar, um, and reflect
them back to me. And so I kind of, she clearly had so much fun already helping you before the
program was even born, so if you want to you're welcome to kind of trace it all the way back to
before we even started talking.
Gillian Jakob Kieser: Yeah, I can. This is a little offbeat, but like do you mind if I share some of the
insights that I had shared with you then? Cause I think it may resonate with some of your people.
Viktoria Levenberg: Yeah. Please.
Gillian Jakob Kieser: Which was like what Vik was teaching before, and we're friends so I'd seen,
you know, your work was about, you know, stress and mindfulness and well-being and like taking
time for yourself, which are like these are all important things. I fully recognise these are good
things to do. I also aspire to do these things. But like I only say that, so I said this to you cause I
love you, but I was like candidly like my brain's like f no, you don't have time for this s. It's like no
way we're not stopping to sit quietly and check in with our body. Like no one has time for this,
especially not you being me. They're like this is what my brain said. I'm like I'd love to join this
class, but it's absolutely not a priority because I have to get all this stuff done before I have time
to do nice things like meditate.
And I was like, “Vik, if you could help me get those things done, then I would love to learn all this
other juicy yummy stuff that you have to teach, but right now that's like a nice to have, not a
must have, and my to do list is a must-do.”
And so that was sort of where that conversation started. And like it, I think it was like the reason
that stuff fits in your life so well and you have space for these higher-level ambitions, I think is
because you're so efficient and productive and you managed to get your things done and you're
an ambitious person. So it's like what's, I was like, “What's your secret? How do you have space
to do yoga every day? You're doing all this,” you know, like I see you and I'm like, “How is she
doing that?”
And so that was sort of the genesis of like you and I having lots of long talks around the New Year
about, you know, like what would this look like for you to teach your secrets? Um and I think it's
still getting, it's still towards the ultimate vision of getting people towards this, the health and
well-being stuff, but it's like there's a giant elephant in the room before you can get to that.
So anyway, what was your, what was the what was the oh, what was my life like before, yeah.
Viktoria Levenberg: I will pause you here because that is just so important what you've just
shared there as well, you know. And I will quote you because like that, when you said that, that
was almost like, not an awakening, but it was this “oh, like I'm allergic to this.”
Gillian Jakob Kieser: Oh yeah, yeah. When I had seen your agenda or your syllabus for your
previous course that you'd been teaching that was like how to have space, how to feel your
feelings, how to bloody, and I was like, I told you, and only cause we're good friends and I love
you, but I was like I'm allergic to this syllabus. I like wouldn't go, I wouldn't touch this with a 10
foot pole. This is terrifying to someone like me. And in the same breath as you're telling me that
someone like me is your ideal client, I'm like here's what your ideal client has to say about this: I
don't have time.
Viktoria Levenberg: Yeah. And then I vividly remember like doing like, that sort of initiated the
brainstorming process, and I was like okay, damn it, I've got a whole new offer on my hands. And I
sort of started putting them side by side, and I vividly remember you being like, “Holy shit, that's
exactly what I need.” And it was like the heavens parted and the light shone through. And
obviously I had a little mental minty bee, you know, like it's so, it was a whole life crisis because
here I wasted, not wasted, I'm so grateful for all the skills I accumulated, but no one gives a damn
that I've got all these other skills because in reality, now I can clearly see like what I'm doing and
what you've really helped me uncover is I'm helping people get the things that they need to get
done, done quickly and efficiently so that they can actually get back to doing the things they love,
and they can chase their biggest wildest passions and ambitions that are so in alignment with
what they came here for, that it's all easy and doable.
Gillian Jakob Kieser: Well I think like to that point, like I know you have a lot of certifications and
trainings and licenses and all the stuff of like teaching mindfulness and all these wellness
modalities, and like that stuff is amazing. But I think what a lot of people in those spaces don't
realise is it's not just the like, it's not the ability to deliver those services or deliver them better
and better and better. There's a giant block, there's like a chasm in between the people they
most want to help, which are like people who are stressed out, burnt out, overtaxed, who need
that work the most, are unable to get themselves there. Not because the practitioners aren't
skilled, but because there's like this giant both mental but like also real logistical block of like
they're maxed out, and there's not space for another hobby, especially a hobby that's like takes
time and self-awareness and reflection and like spaciousness. Spaciousness. Like that was
probably one of those words where I was like allergic, allergic. Like that's a joke. There's no
spacious, we're just cramming stuff in. Spaciousness is not happening here. So if you tell me to
do it more, it's like I can't. There's not, there's no negative space.
And so I think the offering you have now is like such an important, um not intermediary, it's not
giving it enough credit, but like a foundational practice and skill set that so many people are
missing. It's like trying to teach someone finance, right? Like we talk a lot about finance too, of
like it's trying to teach someone advanced investing strategies when they like don't have like a
basic emergency fund or like their, you know, like they're in debt living paycheck to paycheck. It's
like this is, you will get there, but we can't get there if we just don't start here. Like how can you
have like a gourmet meal when you can't like cut an onion?
Viktoria Levenberg: Yes, exactly. Exactly. And that is the catalyst that opens up all doors. And you
know, when you said like “oh girl, what's your secret?” I'm like, oh my gosh, I didn't realise that
this is what comes so easily and naturally, and I don't think I give that enough credit as well
because it seemed so obvious to me. But then the more I sat with it and the more I realised, I
was like whoa, this has been like over a decade in the making. It's just been, I've been so blind to
it. Um and so it's, and yet it's so different from what, we'll get into that in just a moment, from
what's out there that um I'm just so grateful to be doing this.
Because it is so much fun and seeing, you know, someone like you really just, my goodness,
flourish and thrive and so okay, look back-to-back on track. Tell me more about what life was like
before so that people can really see what’s possible for them after Efficiency Made Easy.
Gillian Jakob Kieser: Yeah, I think I was doing a lot before. I’m doing a lot now, but I would say
before it was like very heads down, like 1 inch altitude view, where it was just like every day I’d
look at my day being like, I have plenty of time to do things, and by the end of the day, I would
feel frustrated that I hadn’t done as many things as I thought I would be able to do. Rinse, repeat
every single day where I’m like, I have passions, hobbies, things I’d like to do. I would also like to
do yoga and meditate, and every day I would think, oh, I’ll have space, I’ll have time to do that,
and then I didn’t, and it was just like very discouraging honestly.
Because my, I, I like you’re kind of mentioning like what are the alternatives? Like what are the
things that people do? And so like I think a very obvious alternative is like how do I do stuff
faster? And like I’ll be honest with you, I, I, you know, like we share a business coach, that’s how
we know each other, and like a lot of the work that I’m doing and you’re doing too are these like
marketing tasks, creative tasks, and like in my corporate career, I’m a tenured marketer so like
truly no one’s faster at writing copywriting, newsletters, creating social content, like the stuff I’m
doing, I’m already basically as fast as any human could possibly be at this stuff.
And so I felt like, I’m not saying that to brag, it’s just like it’s a core competency. So it’s like I’m
banging my head against the wall being like, how do I get faster at something I’m already doing
basically efficiently? Like I don’t know that there’s anything more to squeeze out of this lemon.
Viktoria Levenberg: Yes.
Gillian Jakob Kieser: And so I was sort of out of ideas, you know what I mean? And then you start
thinking like, oh, can AI help me? Do I have to automate everything? And it’s like that’s, I, that’s
not necessarily the answer because I don’t think that was the problem.
I think the problem was about, look, it, I felt like now looking back, I felt like I was like looking at
my life through these very um like little windows into the house. Like this gives me like a partial
view. This gives me a partial view of what’s happening here. But doing Efficiency Made Easy
helped me really zoom out, see my whole life kind of on one pane of glass, and see how all the
parts were fitting together. I feel like I’m, I’m seeing what’s actually happening with clear vision
now, and I can make better decisions about it versus I was like scrambling on a hamster wheel
before just like get it done, get it done, and then wondering what happened.
Viktoria Levenberg: Yes, yes. And sort of like you’ve, you’ve described this so well in, in our
coaching calls, sort of can you describe what would happen to you like 3, 4, 5 PM onwards?
Because that is just like such a poetic visual of, of how I think a lot of people—
Gillian Jakob Kieser: Oh, is it just the melting face emoji? That’s just me. I wake up early before
my job to get work on my business done cause that’s, you know, before parenting, before my 9 to
5 job, like that’s the only time that’s mine, truly mine and defensible.
And so I wake up early, I’ve got my little coffee pot, I’m do you know tap tap tap doing my little
work, but that’s like by noon I’ve been up for seven hours. So by like two or three I’m toast. So all
those days that I was like looking in my afternoons being like, oh, I might have a little pocket of
time to get something done, this will be great, I’m, I’m not, I’ve, I got nothing left in the tank by
that point.
And so again like these were the like unhelpful thought loops of like should I wake up even
earlier? Do I have to like beat myself? You know what I mean? Like how do I, how do I get ahead
of myself?
And that was just, it felt like a, like a Sisyphian, you know, like cycle where I’m like I can’t wake up
any earlier than I’m like this can’t, this can’t be the answer. The answer cannot be here doing this
even more. It has to be somewhere else that I haven’t—
Viktoria Levenberg: Yeah, yeah. And it was sort of this trying to squeeze more out of, out of the
day and, and create more hours instead of like can I, can I create a 30-hour day almost?
Gillian Jakob Kieser: Totally. That’s what it felt like. And like I wasn’t leaving any time for
unplanned or things that I misestimated or things that took longer than I thought or like new
things that came up or social opportunity. You know like…
Viktoria Levenberg: Yes.
Gillian Jakob Kieser: A family member is trying to talk to me. That wasn’t on my calendar, you
know like—I don’t wanna be that.
Viktoria Levenberg: I laugh because I can relate.
Gillian Jakob Kieser: This conversation was not prescheduled and it’s not in my 15-minute time
blocks. Go away.
Viktoria Levenberg: And how dare you interrupt my focus time.
Gillian Jakob Kieser: Don’t you see that the over-ear headphones are on? Be gone with you.
Viktoria Levenberg: Shoo. Shoo.
Gillian Jakob Kieser: Doesn’t this tell you what you need to know?
Viktoria Levenberg: Oh my gosh, I’m, I’m laughing so hard uh because it is, it is just so relatable
right? It’s like you’re so in your silo that like how dare someone who loves me actually care about
me and
Gillian Jakob Kieser: You don’t know how hard it was to get this time.
Viktoria Levenberg: Exactly.
Gillian Jakob Kieser: I finally talked myself into doing this stupid task that I’ve been postponing for
three weeks and now I’m doing it and you deigned to knock on my door and tell me dinner is
ready
Viktoria Levenberg: And you are inviting me to go for a walk that’s gonna take a half hour that I
don’t have hahaha.
Gillian Jakob Kieser: These people just don’t understand Vik.
Viktoria Levenberg: Oh the struggles of a high achiever right there. My goodness.
Gillian Jakob Kieser: It’s tough out here. It’s tough out here.
Viktoria Levenberg: It is. And like a lot of people I think like don’t talk about it right? Like these
are, these are naughty things that happen in our, in our brain and, and it feels like I don’t know
about you, but whenever these thoughts come up, but I, there’s an element of like whoa, did I
just think that? And it’s like is it, there’s something wrong with me? And then you start to—
Gillian Jakob Kieser: Yeah. Here’s the other thing that’s like, we’ve never even talked about this
before, but like so much of the productivity literature and frameworks are written by men, for
men, about a very masculine way of working.
Like I’ve read so many of these books where it’s like this person has no family obligations at all.
They’re in complete control of their time. Their child never wets the bed and needs help during
your morning work block, you know like they just seem to have someone at home taking care of
everything so they can be fully in control of all their time.
And like it’s so pervasive that you don’t even really think about it because those are all the books
you read and they’re all kind of the same. And so I think your approach is very novel that way
because it, it has a feminine bent only because it’s very flexible and it takes into account the
whole of life, which I think is super important and often overlooked. People just are like we’re
gonna fix work.
Viktoria Levenberg: Mm hmm.
Gillian Jakob Kieser: It’s like work is part of a life and for a lot of us work is very interwoven with
the rest of our lives.
Viktoria Levenberg: Yes exactly. And this is why like this is the hill I will die on is that the
masculine-dominated productivity system is broken. It is even for men. Like we, we had a man in
the founding members cohort who’s like holy moly, I didn’t know any of this. Like I wish we’d
learn this in high school. And, and that’s because it worked for a certain time, you know.
I generally believe that a lot of the productivity frameworks and tools and systems um came from
the industrial era, came from where it was really factory input-output. You know, the hours you
clock in is the, is what you get out. But we’re in 2026. Like this is, this is now where in the age of
AI it is more important now than ever for us to tap into our innate human nature and really
leverage and work with every single phase of what it means to be a human, including the ups but
also the downs that are simply inevitable.
And so tell me a little bit more about like then what, what the experience was like for you as you
began to play with some of the frameworks, the teachings, the tools that I shared with you in the
program.
Gillian Jakob Kieser: Yeah well, one of the ones that I had told you before that I was like I don’t
believe in this or like maybe this works for other people but not for me were the like energy
cycles tracked to your menstrual cycle. I was like maybe for you Vik, but for me my energy is
constant the whole month. Sometimes I have these erratic crashes I can’t explain, but other than
that it’s not linked to my cycle whatsoever.
And so you encouraged me to start tracking my energy and my sleep throughout the month, and
I was willing to try it, and lo and behold, having a few months of data to look back on, I’m not
immune to the natural cycles. And it was wild that like once I gave myself permission to sort of
look for those energy highs and lows, they were definitely there. And my tricky brain had merely
historically interpreted them as like personal failures. Oh, this part of the month I suck. This part
of the month I’m good. This part I suck. This part I’m doing well.
And like when I stopped punishing myself for being less productive or being slower or sleepier or
whatever, it was like it was very different. And I think I’m still learning this, but like practising not
overbooking myself during those times when I know historically I won’t be able to get it done or
it’ll feel forced.
And I think it’s like that speaks to a lot of the other stuff I’m learning from you and working on
implementing, which is like how to truly uh denote like what is urgent and important.
Viktoria Levenberg: Yes.
Gillian Jakob Kieser: And what just like feels important.
Viktoria Levenberg: Yes.
Gillian Jakob Kieser: Those emails I was mentioning to you were like I was like oh this is obvious
enough that even I can clock it that this is not urgent nor important at all. And so it’s definitely
been like brain exercise to start looking at my task list and my incoming ideas with this more
discretionary filter that I did not have before. It was just like I realised I was like kind of just trying
to stick everything on my to do list and get it all done almost to save myself from having to really
thought think about it.
Viktoria Levenberg: Mm hmm.
Gillian Jakob Kieser: And decide whether it was important like that was harder than just getting it
done.
Viktoria Levenberg: Yes yes. And thank you for naming that because that’s often the hardest part
in and I genuinely believe that’s probably a lot of the reason why people resist planning um is
because it forces you to make a decision before you run right. Because it like it’s I was even
chatting to my partner cause here’s part of the reason why it was so hard for me to realise the
innate gift and secrets that I possess is that my partner’s also wired very much the same way as I
am so we kind of we speak the same language. I’m already slowly recruiting him onto Team Vik
like you know it’s it’s a few years away but you know I’m planting the seeds ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
ha um and and we were talking about it and he’s like yeah it’s because people are just not
realistic. Like they’re they’re in LA LA land thinking that they can squeeze more in and create
these 30-hour days when in reality there’s an element it’s a skill it’s a muscle that you flex of
prioritising and discerning what’s important. Why are you actually doing this and what’s the how
is this gonna get you to your end goal like how many times have I said to begin with the end in
mind. Like how is this actually connected or does it just sound fun like remember when you said
oh a challenge launch would be fun.
Gillian Jakob Kieser: Yeah yeah. And a lot of this stuff sounds important but like yeah that
discernment is such an underdeveloped skill underdeveloped muscle compared to the like hustle
get it done muscle that it’s like Oof. Just going in and doing those like tricep work you know like
no one wants to do it but it’s important to do and that’s the skill I I needed to learn for sure.
Viktoria Levenberg: I would love to invite you to my free master class called Peak Productivity
Secrets where you will get the exact planning framework that I use with my clients so that they
can get more done in less time while feeling more energised. You can sign up using the link in the
show notes below or simply head to my website viktorialevenberg.com.
Viktoria Levenberg: Uh huh yeah. I love the little rhyme hustle muscle. I’m like hahaha yeah.
Gillian Jakob Kieser: The hustle muscle is strong the discernment muscle very weak.
Viktoria Levenberg: Uh huh yeah absolutely.
Gillian Jakob Kieser: And ironically the discernment muscle will save you from doing extra work
and yet we’ll just like do it the hard way every time.
Viktoria Levenberg: Exactly exactly. And something that you shared when we were going through
the program um which it it’s called Efficiency Made Easy and yet like you’ve always often spoken
about being so used to doing things on hard mode that easy mode felt so unfamiliar. Like can you
share a little bit more about that and how that started to shift for you in your work life and
business.
Gillian Jakob Kieser: I mean easy feels dangerous uh huh. But I think it also um speaks to what
you’re talking about where like sometimes you have skills hard won hard developed skills in
certain areas where now things are easier because you have done the work. And like can you just
let that be easy. I think the other thing that I’m I’m more aware of now is like uh where am I
trying to like what do I want to say going above and beyond like 110% when 90% would have
sufficed and it won’t actually make a measurable impact. And saving that hundred and ten
percent for those few areas where it does make make an impact instead of like adding up these
tiny taxes of inefficiency throughout the week um when I could have systematised or just not
done some of those things. It would have been good enough to achieve the goal the end in mind
and then it saves my creative energy to really apply to those special things where I wanna really
show up like that. But if you’re trying to do everything extra hard way all the time it adds up and
it tires you out.
Viktoria Levenberg: Uh huh uh huh. It’s exhausting and like I can I can hear the whispers. I can
hear someone’s thought right now listening to that you know that the ambitious person never
wants to hear. Letting something be at 90% and letting that be declared as enough. But it’s but
it’s about knowing where to declare that like as you say it’s knowing where to put that focus
because if everything’s important nothing’s important and you actually don’t unlock the peak
potential that arises within you for the things that truly matter because you’re stretched so thin
on I don’t know like formatting the Powerpoint for the 57th time that no one’s gonna look at
anyway because no one reads the pre read like relatable.
Gillian Jakob Kieser: Yeah yeah. I mean examples I’m thinking of just this week now like I it’s not
that I’m like completely healed and a totally different person but I’m seeing things that I didn’t
see before so I’m able to troubleshoot my own behaviour faster and that is a huge win for me. So
like this week I had a bunch of orders come in for a service that I provide in my business and I
noticed I’m writing a ton of one off emails welcoming people to the service and telling them
what to expect. And I’m like okay this is something automated. And I’m noticing okay well what’s
my why don’t I why didn’t I do that already. Oh because I wanted to share this and share that and
it’s like okay where are better places to put that personal touch in my business so that I can save
my energy for those places and not have it just sprinkled throughout everywhere like costing me
and not really benefiting my clients.
Viktoria Levenberg: Boom right there. Like ugh. And like just knowing the the service that you’re
relating to because we worked on it in our VIP day and like how taxing it already is on you hearing
you say that you write every single welcome email individually and personally I’m like oh my God
Gillian what are you doing?
Gillian Jakob Kieser: Hahaha.
Viktoria Levenberg: And it is so great to see that like through you know osmosis and being in this
program for eight weeks you’re already starting to develop that muscle yourself and be like whoa
Gillian what are you doing let’s there’s a more efficient way to operate here.
Gillian Jakob Kieser: It’s the discernment and being able yeah it’s being able to see it with new it’s
it probably sounds very simplistic and I’m sure there’s people listening being like duh but like
there’s a difference between duh I get it intellectually and like I can uh I can unpick my own like
obstacles and blockers around it um and say like okay I can understand this one this one’s getting
thrown out you know like I can coach myself about it a little bit better now which does feel like a
huge um huge progress.
Viktoria Levenberg: Yeah and and I love that experience that we’ve had in in this very first cohort
as well you know like I mean I’ve learned so much about myself and these teachings and tools
and distinctions as well and it’s sort of this sort of these eight weeks like you say it’s like you’re
not gonna miraculously heal overnight. Change takes time but what we did is like it’s almost like I
took you all and just shook you a little bit and and got all the stuff you know sort of moving so
that we could zoom out and see the big picture. Throw out the trash that doesn’t work introduce
the things that actually do and now of course as a lifetime member in my brand new back end
membership you know like we get to actually implement and coach and like work through that in
real time which is super super cool. And like would you be able to speak to some of the most
impactful shifts that zooming out and seeing everything in that big picture view has had for you.
Gillian Jakob Kieser: Yeah definitely definitely. I think um it’s helped me uh I feel like like my life
probably everyone’s life is full of like loud and quiet categories. Things that like really pull on you
for your attention and other things that are important but not loud. And so like I think it it was a
real aha for me to see that like um the most important things in my life are my family and some
of my hobbies. The less important things in terms of my whole life value are you know my job like
it’s important and building my business is important to me. But if I was gonna make a pie chart of
how important you know like it’s small and I’m happy to like build it organically and slowly. I don’t
want it to take over my life. And yet if you looked at my calendar at the beginning of our work
together it was filling every crevice because there was always something interesting shiny to
work on for it. And you really helped me think about what is the like what was I gaining by
working that way what was I trading by working that way. And I was like it it was really an aha to
be like oh if my stated goal for this I’ve already achieved. So like I actually have a lot more
freedom than I’m letting myself enjoy because I’m getting distracted by the to-dos that are right
in front of my face. But like I’m the boss. I don’t have a boss making me do anything except for
me and so I have to also be the one to be like okay we’re gonna make these changes around here
and do this and this and this um and that’s when I’m like honestly revisiting every single day
because it’s such a change in
It’s so easy to respond to the noisy work and ignore the stuff that doesn’t call for your attention,
even when that’s more important in your life.
Viktoria Levenberg: Yeah, yeah.
And you know, it’s a dangerous path. It’s a really slippery slope to walk down because that’s how
unfortunately a lot of people then end up in resentful relationships or detached and
disconnected from their family and their kids, and their health suffers because they ignore it
once again. And because especially as ambitious, high performing achievers, you know, whether
you are working in corporate or an entrepreneur or both like yourself, we’re not often taught to
define what done looks like.
Gillian Jakob Kieser: Yeah
Viktoria Levenberg: And so of course it’s hard to know when you’re done and that you’ve
achieved because you’re constantly trying to achieve.
Gillian Jakob Kieser: That’s the thing with high-level thought work.
Viktoria Levenberg: Yes.
Gillian Jakob Kieser: If you’re making widgets in a factory and you have to make 100, you’re done
when you make 100. But for thought work, it’s like you’re never done. There’s always new
research or new something or something to get ahead or something to tie up or like there’s
always new work to do. And so the burden is on the, on you to decide what is done and enforce
and be, hold yourself accountable for your own definition of done and learn to tolerate some of
the discomfort that comes with that.
Viktoria Levenberg: Yes, yeah. Because when you then zoom out and look at some of the
highlights, you know, this is one of the exercises that I had you guys do, is looking at the
highlights of the last 12 months. Was it staying late at the office so you could learn how to vibe
code this new tool? Hahaha. Or was it the little moment where you went out for ice cream with
your girl and she splattered it all over her shirt and it was really cute and it was just a
spontaneous mother-daughter connection, right?
Gillian Jakob Kieser: Yeah, for sure. It’s definitely, it’s challenging sometimes to slow down and
like unplug when you’re so, we get addicted is a strong word, accustomed is a little soft, it’s
somewhere in the middle, but like habituated I’ll say, to that fast pace and challenging work and
all the stuff. And so many of the interesting valuable things in life are not on that timeline. And
when I zoomed out to see that some of the most important things I wanted to do had nothing to
do with that kind of work, little hobbies, personal stuff, well being stuff, my family.
Viktoria Levenberg: Yes.
Gillian Jakob Kieser: It’s like those are never, they’re never calling to, they’re not loud, you know.
But it doesn’t mean that they’re not important. In fact quite the opposite.
Viktoria Levenberg: Uh huh, yeah. And I will never forget the moment when, um, I think it was
around that time when the shift was starting to happen for you and then you were like watching
little dance videos. And I think around that time you began to commit to, you know, I, I don’t
wanna spoil this.
Gillian Jakob Kieser: Oh yeah, I can tell the story.
Viktoria Levenberg: You OK?
Gillian Jakob Kieser: Yeah, yeah. I, I think I know the one that you’re saying. But like this was, I was
alluding to this before when I was saying like, um, I, I don’t win a prize by scaling my business to X
amount by the end of this year. That was just like a weird challenge that sounded exciting to me.
But when I got the opportunity to produce a dance event with my two friends, like here’s a,
here’s a project that doesn’t make any money, is not for the recognition, fame or glory of
anything. Like it’s purely for fun and for a hobby that I love. And I got the opportunity to do that. I
was like at first I was like, I don’t have time to do this cause my business takes up all my time. And
then it’s like truly like begin with the end in mind. I was like well, what’s the end? Not the, the
goal of the business that I wanna do this year. And I’m like I’m already on track to do that without
adding in anything fancy or new on top of it. I can just keep cruising.
Viktoria Levenberg: Uh huh.
Gillian Jakob Kieser: And it made me realise like oh, I actually not only have the time and
bandwidth, but like this would be a great, yeah, endeavour for me. It’s super aligned with my
values. This actually gets me like quote unquote where I wanna go in, in my greater life versus
doubling down, adding, pouring more into the business. The only goal I get from that is like a
business goal, which is one segment of my life. But like yeah, it was, it was, it’s just wild anytime
you get a chance to make a, a decision in a new way. Like you have to try on a new brain almost.
Viktoria Levenberg: Yeah, yeah. I love that so much because what you’ve just described is
effectively what we kind of started talking about at the beginning where it’s like you, you’re more
efficient with the things that you need to do and you get them done so that you have more space
for the things that you actually love in your life. And this is where we return to that word
spaciousness. And um, you said that before you, you were like quite allergic to it. It was like oh
gosh, that’s like, that’s nice for some people. That’s nice for people.
Gillian Jakob Kieser: People with nothing to do.
Viktoria Levenberg: Yeah, and, and I think like another friction point, like I wanna address it too
because, you know, a lot of my ideal clients are busy and that could be because they’re juggling
corporate work. Yes. Maybe also business and entrepreneurship and also parenting. And I’m not
a parent myself. And I know that was like a friction point as well of like well, what do you know
Vik? You don’t have a six-year-old that needs your attention every morning, so.
Gillian Jakob Kieser: I didn’t say that hahaha.
Viktoria Levenberg: No, I, I didn’t say that, you said that. But someone else might be feeling that
way. And so I just wanted to address that potential, um, hmm, difference in lived experience.
Yeah and yeah, hear what that was like for you, um, as well. You know because there is yes, the
work part of it, but there is also the demand of the mothering and what spaciousness and taking
time for you.
Gillian Jakob Kieser: I think, I think spaciousness looks a little different in terms of the end output.
But I will say that doing the work is almost even more important the more things that you have in
your life that are values aligned and important to you because it means that like the cost of
getting it wrong is higher. I have less buffer to work with in my life. Like if I was, you know, single,
had no responsibilities, no obligations.
Viktoria Levenberg: Yeah.
Gillian Jakob Kieser: I could just work all weekend on my business. Like efficiency wouldn’t be that
important. It would be nice, a nice to have not a must have. But for me to do, accomplish all the
bold, hairy, scary goals I have for my life and show up as the mother and family member that I
wanna be, I like the, the, the benefit, the advantage of like learning how to do that very efficiently
is it’s, it feels hotter. Like it’s, it’s much more vital.
Viktoria Levenberg: Yeah, yeah. And, and there’s a ripple effect, you know. There’s a, you’re,
you’re a role model for, for your kid, for your family. And um, it’s, the stakes are higher basically
like you say. And, and I generally, it’s such a, it’s so interesting how these two things can coexist
and yet be so opposite at the same time. It’s like the less, the more pressure you have in your life,
the more you need this work because the stakes are higher because you have more to lose if you
don’t get it right. And so I would love if you could just like in your own words describe for
someone who’s like okay, like you guys have been talking about it, I kind of get it, sounds cool,
but like what is Efficiency Made Easy? You know, without me, any mumbo jumbo marketing sales
talk. It’s like just say you were talking to a friend who’s in the same position you were couple
weeks ago, well couple months ago now. How would you describe it to them?
Gillian Jakob Kieser: I, I mean I did talk to a friend yesterday or Wednesday. I took a friend out for
lunch for her birthday.
Viktoria Levenberg: Oh yay. Another thing that you get to do because you exactly have time,
right?
Gillian Jakob Kieser: What? Well I mean now I, I do run every choice through that filter of like is
this aligned with my values? And like something like that, absolute. Yeah. I could have, I could, I
have done a work task during that time? Yes, obviously I could have. But like that’s a luxurious
two hours that I would spend again and again and again because that’s the ultimately the life I
wanna live. So to answer your question, what it, what it was to me, and I, I get that it’s abstract. I
had a lot of questions before I started, but like it’s an, it’s an all-encompassing system. It’s
guidance to build your own system that’s personalised to you where it’s not just a way to get
your tasks done faster. It truly feels like a way to zoom out, see your whole life on one pane of
glass and create a system that encompasses all of it and helps you get the things that you need to
get done, done. Helps you, it gives you like a litmus test for do I actually need to do these other
things or not? And like a way to consciously get rid of them so that the whole, the whole of your
life is working together like a good machine that you’ve designed that you’re happy with instead
of feeling like those things are happening to you and you can’t like catch your breath.
Viktoria Levenberg: Hmm. I love that. That is so good. That is so good. And that reminds me of
something that we haven’t touched on briefly, but I did just want to sprinkle that in because you
just meant, you just mentioned how like you get to design and make it your own system. And like
you’re a very visual person. I’m a very kinesthetic person. Some other people are more audible.
Some are a mix of, of all the above. And like that was something I was really conscious of when I
went into this, you know, especially teaching it for the first time. I was like I’m not foolish enough
to think that just because I use specific tools and systems that they’re gonna work for everyone.
And can you speak to like the unlock that it had for you when you started to work with your
visual processing style in your productivity.
Gillian Jakob Kieser: Yes absolutely. And I, I, I don’t think I’m like giving away your IP if I describe
like one of the processes that we went through, which was really an assessment of our current
systems, everything that’s happening in our lives already, and which ones are working well and
which ones are not. And that was a huge unlock for me to see that, to see that all the systems
that were working the best for me currently had a visual component. They were helping me plan,
they helped me remember things, having my visual calendar, like once I can see it, I understand it
and my brain can make sense of it.
And so you really gave me permission to kind of like replicate that success across all the other
new systems I was trying to put together in. And I think, I think someone will relate to this, but
like to me, having visual systems felt very childish to me. That was my inner critic being like, grow
up, be serious, have a real business-looking system with nested bullet points and task lists. But
that stuff just like, it would just blur in front of my eyes. Like I couldn’t, my brain couldn’t parse it,
and it took so much concentration to make, extract sense out of those.
So I never built them for my business. Instead, I have colour-coded Post-its everywhere. Like
that’s just my style. Cause once I see it, I have like a photographic memory, it’s in there. And so
you really helped me set up my personal operating system, my Gillian operating system, in a very
visual, colourful way that’s spatial. I’m like, it’s all working. I know where everything is now. I
don’t feel lost. And like, even if that’s not how other people would build their system, I, I
absolutely have faith that you’re a good coach and will help people build the system that makes
sense for their brain because there’s, it’s your system by design. It, it, it’s only gonna work if it’s
yours.
And I think that’s like one of the coolest parts cause you can read a lot of productivity books
where they’ll say do this system, get these file folders, label them this, set them up this way. And
like you can try it, but if it’s, if it doesn’t work for your brain, it’s not gonna stick. And so I think
you’re really gifted at helping people, listening to people, what, receiving what they’re, what
they’re giving you, and then helping turn that into something that’s gonna work for them.
Viktoria Levenberg: Hmm yeah. Thank you for saying that because this is like, what’s the point in,
in trying to force yourself into someone else’s mould? And I vividly remember that conversation
we had when we were just starting to unpack your visual systems, and you’re like, but I can’t use
this in my business. Like no one’s gonna take this seriously. How am I gonna pass it on to
someone else? I was like, no, no, no, hang on a second. Like how are you supposed to pass on a
system that doesn’t make sense in your brain in the first place? And like it is, it is your life. It is
your business by design. So um hmm wow.
I’m just so, so freaking grateful for you know, you and like your coachability and your story and
how you show up in, in everything that you do. It is you in your corporate job, you’re like this
incredible lively fun, colourful person. In your business, you are such a strong leader. And in your
family life, you know, you are the mother, you are the wife, you are the daughter, and of course,
all of these things come with demands from you. And seeing you go through this experience and
return home to yourself. And you know, I’m, I’m not a, I would love to be a fly on the wall in your
home, but like just to see the haha, the impact that that then has on, on everyone around you.
Gillian Jakob Kieser: That listening to you just say that, it feels like to answer your other question
of like, how do you describe Efficiency Made Easy, it feels like taking those, those inherent
systems skills, stuff that already worked for me, but like levelling it up to be able to accommodate
the ambitious things that I wanna do. Cause my systems were like buckling. They were good for a
simple life that I used to have. And now with as much going on as I have, I needed a more robust
system. So you helped me take what was working and like amplify and strengthen it. It’s like now
industrial strength where it used to be like domestic strength, you know.
Viktoria Levenberg: Yes. Hahaha. Oh my God. I’m writing that down because that is so good.
Gillian Jakob Kieser: And not to say that the systems feel so much stronger and like capable of
much more throughput running through them.
Viktoria Levenberg: That’s it. And that’s what all ambitious people need if they truly wanna
actually achieve their biggest wildest goals because um, you know, you can’t win the Formula
One if you’re driving a 1969 burnt up Ford something. You, you need the Mustang. You need the
Ferrari. This is, this is the Ferrari.
Gillian Jakob Kieser: Totally, yeah. My systems were at their max with letting me do what I was
doing, and it felt chaotic cause I was yeah, over overusing them. So yeah, I feel like the systems
are much stronger now.
Viktoria Levenberg: Mmm hmm yeah. That’s it. And I, I love that cause that’s quite provocative as
well. It’s like if you wanna live a simple life, you can stick with your chaotic systems. But if you
wanna level up and actually fulfil your peak potential, then time to change. Um haha it’s like got
that um. And so on that note, I would love to hear from you, what is your big ambitious wild goal
that now your new systems have set you up to chase and achieve? I don’t know if you like
comfortable sharing and, and giving us a little sneak peek behind the scenes of something you’re
working towards.
Gillian Jakob Kieser: Yeah totally. I mean it’s, it’s it, the, the business that I’m building is still in its
infancy. It’s, it’s growing quickly. I’m getting really positive feedback. And so I think for me the
goal is like becoming the person that can hold the container for that to grow without it taking me
down. Like I want it ultimately, it’s part of my life, and I wanna be able to enjoy my life, my family,
my hobbies while running this business that is like a, my labor of love. I love my business so
much.
Viktoria Levenberg: Yeah.
Gillian Jakob Kieser: And I want to be able to engage in it and enjoy the process of doing that,
because I’ve worked really hard to create it and create this space where people can come in and
grow and meet their potential. Just like what you’re doing. Like it’s a such a special thing and I
don’t wanna, I don’t wanna miss it cause I’m too busy.
Viktoria Levenberg: Yeah, you wanna actually be present to the magic that you’re creating. And
speaking of the magic that you’re creating, I know that a lot of my listeners would probably also
be very interested in your work and learning more about you. So where can they find you? Like if
they’re curious, they’re like, oh my god, I do also need to sort out my style. Can you give us like a
Super Cliff Notes version of what you do, who you help them, and how they can find you?
Gillian Jakob Kieser: Yes absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah, my, my work serves women who are, are
not well served or are bored or unimpressed with mainstream style advice. I tend to work with
like really cool, smart weirdos, misfits, people who have a little something different going on than
the like beige capsule wardrobe is here to serve. So um, if folks are interested in designing really a
personal style system, the way that Vik helps you design a personal productivity system, one that
it really reflects your personality, who you are, your lifestyle, your body architecture, all of your
idiosyncratic, you know, challenges around clothing, come find me. I can help you do that. Um
and I’m at Gillian Jakob Kieser on Instagram and on TikTok, so you can find me in either of those
places and, and come join the fun.
Viktoria Levenberg: Yes, and make sure to subscribe to Gillian’s newsletter as well. She is a master
copywriter and they’re so fun and so valuable. Um and I, as someone who’s been in your world a
lot and you know, attended your free masterclass, which um you know again, if you’re following
Gillian, you’ll be able to hear and and join it as well, I’ve learned so much and like about myself.
And it, it is really like the way you’ve described it, it’s basically like a in Efficiency Made Easy, we
create a personal operating system for your work, life, and business. In your style Mojo Dojo, it’s
like you create this personal style capsule wardrobe for whoever you are, rather than whatever
mainstream fashion wants you to be or 100% your mom tried to dress you like when you were 5,
you know like we all got those.
Gillian Jakob Kieser: We end up going deep. We’re doing, we’re doing shadow work. We’re doing
like deep personality excavation. It’s very therapeutic and you look hot and cute on the other
end. So you know.
Viktoria Levenberg: Yes, you do. Yes, you do hahaha. I love it. Oh my gosh. And so to wrap it up,
the signature question that I ask every single person that has come onto the podcast, and I’m
really curious to hear your answer today, Gillian, is if there’s just one thing that resonates with
the listeners long after the episode ends, what do you wish that one thing would be?
Gillian Jakob Kieser: That there’s no amount of efficiency you can create in your tasks that will
beat discernment of choosing which tasks were the right tasks to do. Like you can’t cheat that by
being like, I’ll just get everything done fast. I think this was the hard, the lesson that I had to
learn. Um and so strengthening that skill and that muscle of discernment, uh huh, is hard to do if
you don’t have it, but that’s what will be able to take you further faster than just learning more
productivity hacks.
Viktoria Levenberg: Mm hmm yeah. And that’s what the system’s designed to do for you, so over
time, you can think less and just let it do the work haha. Oh my gosh, Gillian, I’m so incredibly
grateful for you. I mean, we get to continue the fun, which is so cool, and we’ll have to get you
back on because like I’d really want to nerd out about style and archetypes and all that stuff, so
please.
Let’s, let’s do it.
Um maybe we can time it with your next launch because hey, efficiency right? Hahaha.
Gillian Jakob Kieser: Let’s do it. That sounds awesome.
Viktoria Levenberg: And I hope you have a beautiful weekend of spaciousness.
And anything else that you choose to invest your precious resources, big time and energy into. I
love you so much. I’m so grateful for you for joining us.
Gillian Jakob Kieser: I love you too. Thanks for having me, Vik.
I’m so grateful for you. I told Evan uh the other night, we were talking about, I was talking about
the the membership and joining your program and everything, and I was like, I was like honestly
of all the like coaches and classes and people and everything, I was like a productivity coach was
really like the thing I need most. Like this might be the best hire that I make all year, so.
Viktoria Levenberg: Oh. I’m so glad we’re still recording. Ha ha ha!
Viktoria Levenberg: Honestly, this conversation was so juicy and I could go on so, so many
tangents, of course, because this is like, you know, my bread and butter here. But I just hope that
it was helpful for you to hear a story of someone’s real-life experience of the transformation and
the paradigm shifts that they experienced during Efficiency Made Easy.
You know, like in our society these days, the hustle muscle is strong, and this is just a new muscle
that we get to flex. I haven’t come up with a cool funny name for it yet, but it is really a, a
paradigm shift that you get to undertake. And you know, as you can hear, Gillian’s been juggling
all the things. She’s been juggling parenting and corporate and business, you know, very similar
to my experience when I was juggling studies and corporate and business, and not the parenting
part, but still there’s sort of domestic aspects that um disproportionately fall onto women.
And, and if she can do it, and trust me, like Gillian was so maxed out when we first started
talking, and to see her and the breakthroughs and the changes and the implementation that she
is bringing into her life, like as we speak today, is so, so incredible. Like if it’s possible for her, it is
definitely possible for you too.
And you know, this isn’t a personal failure if you don’t get something done by the end of the day.
It’s, you’re not broken. You’re not doing something wrong. You’ve just never been taught these
skills that are, that’s all it is. It’s a skill. It’s a system that isn’t out there because no one’s been
talking about it, because we’re all just operating in this really ineffective, outdated productivity
model that only works for at best 50% of the population, and even then it doesn’t take into
account the nature of a human being.
So you know if, if you still wanna keep going the way you’ve been going and try and squeeze
more in and try and create 30-hour days by doing things faster and working longer hours, like be
my guest. But around here we do things a differently. We work smarter, we use discernment, we
use the tool systems and strategies that I teach. And I will be revealing some of those secrets in
my upcoming free live master class as well.
Like I can’t believe I’m doing this, but I will be sharing some of the things that I usually keep gated
only for my paying clients. So if you haven’t signed up for that yet, make sure you listen to the
end of the episode or just click the link just below this episode in the show notes right now and
reserve your spot because it is the bomb. Like it is gonna blow your mind so hard because you
won’t find this in any other productivity book.
Like we are on the precipice of something so new and novel that I genuinely know in my bones is
gonna change the productivity world at large. And we’re just in the beginning, you know, like
things are still really intimate. So this is the time to join because you get the most high touch
access to me before my capacity becomes a little bit more constrained and I have to start to put
some boundaries in place as to who I work more closely with than others.
So yeah look, I’m just so humbled that I have the privilege of working with incredible high-
achieving women and men, and whether they’re in corporate or in entrepreneurship or both, or
juggling all the things like Gillian, like yourself, and it would honestly be an honour and privilege
to see you at my upcoming live masterclass.
I’ve made sure to include different dates and times so that no matter what time zone you’re in or
no matter what demands life is throwing you away, there is an option that would work with your
work, life and schedule. And so if you are ready to 10 x your results, please enter this world. Like
you’ve heard it from Gillian, if it’s possible for her, it is possible for you too.
Um I will be opening doors to Efficiency Made Easy to the public next week um but as I
mentioned, I’ve got just limited seats available. And those who join my live masterclass do get
priority access. So who knows, I might even sell out this week and not even end up opening
doors to the public. So I generally wouldn’t wait on it. I would just sign up for the masterclass, get
your name on that list, because unless you’re on the priority list or attending the master class,
you might not even get a chance to get one of those one of 20 seats.
So with that in mind, I’ll leave it at that. All the links are in the show notes below. I would love to
see you there because this is so much fun, this is such life-changing work, and we’re just getting
started.
And yes, there is a reality where you get to live the life of your wildest dreams, achieve your
biggest craziest goals, and still have time and spaciousness for doing the things that you love. And
if I’m the right person to help you get there, what an honour, what a privilege. Thank you, thank
you, thank you from the bottom of my heart. Make sure you sign up for that master class. I would
love to see you there. Bye for now.
Viktoria Levenberg: If you’re ready to stop spinning your wheels and finally see real lasting
results, I created something just for you. My free master class called Peak Productivity Secrets is
designed to help you double your results, reclaim your time and boost your energy so that you
can finally get back to doing the things that you love.
I’ll be sharing the exact planning framework behind the whole shebang, usually content that is
reserved specifically for my clients inside my paid programs. So if you wanna join this free master
class, simply click the link just below this video or head to viktorialevenberg.com. It’s completely
free and I would love to have you in the room. See you soon.
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