Resonance – Episode 36
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Speaker: Viktoria Levenberg
Guest Speaker: James Stark
James Stark: If you read the book, it doesn't mean it changes your life. If you don't apply these
tools, why would I dedicate just lifetimes to doing that, with the promise maybe it's gonna
happen or maybe not? I came to realizations that it's a great experience that requires me to
somehow give it to the world, even if the world will not take it. At least it's there and available.
Viktoria Levenberg: Stop limiting yourself to the box. There is no box, and as soon as you realise
that, anything becomes possible.
James Stark: Ego likes to overcomplicate.
Viktoria Levenberg: In today's episode, you are going to hear from James Stark all about
transcending the ego so that you can finally discover who you really are and what you came here
to do. Let's dive in.
Viktoria Levenberg: Welcome to Resonance, the podcast for high performers and entrepreneurs
who wanna do life, work, and success differently. I am your host, Viktoria Levenberg, and I'm
obsessed with efficiency, productivity, and planning in a way that harnesses your energy and your
natural rhythms, while keeping you in alignment and integrity. Because I have figured out that
lasting success is not about the hustle. It is about being in resonance. Let's begin.
Viktoria Levenberg: Okay, before we begin, I've got a few questions for you. On a scale of one to
ten, where one is really low and ten is really high, how fulfilled are you with your life, really? Be
honest with me. When you really look at everything around you, what you're doing day in, day
out, the people, the surroundings, how fulfilling is it on a deep soul level? And how connected to
your purpose are you?
And if the answers are low, that is totally okay. This is no judgment here, right? This is a safe
space. And you see, unfortunately, most people are sleepwalking through their lives, so busy in
this entertainment of our day-to-day world that they don't even pause for a moment to ask
themselves these bigger questions. And that is for a big reason. That is because they are often
stuck in our material 3D plane, this 3D reality that we, yes, all find ourselves in. However, you
have a choice. You have a choice on whether you continue to stay stuck and be puppeteered by
your ego, monkey mind, or you have the choice to expand your consciousness, become aware of
what is perhaps invisible to the naked eye, and notice that you too have the power to create your
own reality.
And so today, you are going to hear from James Stark, who is one of my teachers. He's someone I
learned so, so much from. I would argue that, you know, learning from him, um, and many other
teachers at that particular time in my life, has been a big catalyst into some of the profound shifts
and transformations that I saw in my reality. And, uh, you know, he comes with over a decade of
experience in this work. Um, I mean, this is not even talking about lived experience, right?
Because we, I know we glorify achievements and things, and yes, those things are important. You
know, like these days, anyone can take a three-month course and call themselves an expert, but,
um, he is truly an expert who has dedicated a big portion of his life to emotional intelligence. He
studied Doctor David Hawkins' work profoundly and deeply. You know, the expanses of
consciousness, um, the letting go method, the Course in Miracles. There's so much that he has
lived and embodied and truly, uh, worked on transcending the ego to meet the self.
By the end of this episode, you will have clarity on whether you, like many, many, many of us on
planet Earth, myself included, sometimes are also being puppeteered by your ego, monkey mind.
And you will also have a strategy and a next step forward. That's exactly what James unpacks,
because then you can finally actually become the architect of your reality rather than just falling
into the defaults that society and past experiences have conditioned you to believe are possible.
Stop limiting yourself to the box. There is no box, and as soon as you realise that, anything
becomes possible.
Let's dive in.
Viktoria Levenberg: Welcome, James. Thank you so much for joining me on the podcast.
James Stark: Thank you.
Viktoria Levenberg: And I'm so excited for this and grateful because we have worked together
closely for a long time, and it's also been a long time since we've worked together. So I'm sure a
lot has changed. And before we dive into a lot of that, you know, for our listeners, I would love if
you could introduce yourself, share a little bit of your story, and what brought you here today.
James Stark: So I dedicated a decade, past decade of my life to helping people, to heal people, to
guide them back to their true selves, with capital S, to help them to transcend different negative
states of consciousness, uh, subconscious beliefs that no longer serve them, uh, teaching
emotional awareness, emotional intelligence.
I created a few things here and there. Last, like two years ago, I finished—no, it's a year ago—I
finished my book. And I feel that this chapter has come to quite an interesting end. So where I
am right now is in a transition, where I feel like I have accomplished a great deal in that direction,
but I'm not fully sure where my spirit is leading me at the moment.
So right now, my inner work that I deeply return to is to let go of any, um, beliefs about myself
that I built for the past nine, twelve years. Uh, specifically, who am I? All of these labels, what
other people wanted, uh, see me, or the way they, they, um, perceive me for certain, um, things
that I've been doing. So that's what I've been working on quite a lot for the past year.
Uh, and, uh, I have reached a certain, uh, certain stage where right now I'm like, I have to let go
of all the beliefs, even about the work that I've been doing, about how things work, uh,
emotions—not emotions—what people do with their lives, uh, what are the purposes. And all of
that is just coming to a point where I want to be pure connection to the source. Uh huh. Well,
that's where I am right now. So it's been quite an interesting journey for the past year,
specifically. Yeah.
Viktoria Levenberg: Yeah. Wow, that sounds quite profound. Uh, and it's so interesting that you
mentioned this, and, uh, you know, you work with cyclical rhythms and yantras and astrology as
well. And it's, you know, in our collective consciousness right now, we're in this liminal space
between the letting go of these old structures and beliefs and past identities and welcoming in
the new, right? Like 2025 was a nine year, 2026 is a one year. And just even hearing you share
that you're having the same experiences I'm having, as so many other people are having, is really,
um, deeply profound. And I want to acknowledge that the past work that you have done is so
valuable. And while that might be something that you are letting go of, I would definitely love for
you to share some of the tidbits here and there, ’cause I believe that there's a lot of people who
need to hear what you had to share, if you're open to it.
And I also would love your insights, uh, on, you know, what some of that inner work that you've
been uncovering and the beliefs that you've been letting go of are. Um, so what feels right to
start for you? Do you wanna start with the past, or kind of this present and this new chapter?
Where do you get a sense of direction?
James Stark: I guess, uh, to describe a little bit what led me to where I am right now would be a
bit more wise. Yeah, because, you know, if I start speaking about things that I, uh, I am
experiencing and what I’m doing, people think I lost my mind, ha ha ha. Probably.
Viktoria Levenberg: Not here, you know, we—we’re very open-minded in this community.
James Stark: But it looks like that, I mean, it’s from the side, if someone who doesn’t really know
what’s going on, like if they have not been doing any spiritual work, or have not been, like, doing
deeper, um, you know, shadow work, going deeper into the experiences that most people don’t
even know exist, for most people that looks weird. And you’re gonna look like you’re losing your
mind, which is true, because it’s beyond the mind. You know, beyond the linear mind. It’s more
going back into your heart.
And this path is quite challenging, uh, because the mind has a very strong grasp, uh, but, uh, to
get the idea how I came to that is that, uh, more than a decade ago, I came to realisation that
what I’ve been doing before in my life had no longer lost all the meaning, in a way that I was just
basically doing what most people do. You know, like the main goal is making more money and to
get the success that the world kind of tells you is, you know, like have a house, family, whatever,
you know.
You know, travel. Yeah, have money and, like, feel safe, secure, and then retire, and then, you
know, eventually die. Uh huh. But, uh, to me I realised it very early that’s not what I want. Um,
and the way, the way, like, you know, the way the world works, most of the world works is based
on consumerism and achievement. And this just created such a deep emptiness within me.
So I started to do, uh, my work. So I started to go deeper, and just like, let’s say like twelve, fifteen
years ago, we didn’t have access to such knowledge and such information as we have right now.
Like it was extremely difficult to find really people, really good people, who will help you with the
guidance. Other than that, you need to go to India. But it’s one thing, but if you start asking
questions how to adapt it into the Western world, it was quite a challenge.
So hence, you get into this, you know, like Alan Watts and all of these pioneers who’ve been
bringing certain things. But those is just a mental knowledge. Mm hmm. If you read a book, it
doesn’t mean it changes your life if you don’t apply these tools.
Viktoria Levenberg: Exactly.
James Stark: Having these philosophies in your head is good, but it doesn’t help you a lot, you
know, it doesn’t change anything.
So to me, it became the question, how? How can I practically use what—really practical tools
available, right? Breathwork didn’t exist like the way it exists now. We had like yogic masters, you
know, like pranayama techniques, yeah, uh. But even in yoga tradition, they say you have to
practice all life, uh, and maybe then you will have some shift or maybe not. And maybe you will
have to spend many lifetimes to reach a shift. That’s what they say, uh huh.
And to me, that was not an option. So to me, it was like, it just sounds weird. Like, why would I
dedicate just lifetimes to doing that with the promise maybe it’s gonna happen or maybe not?
Like that sounds a bit, uh, you know, kinda elusive. And, uh, so, and the direction where we’re
going with that is also, was not a—was very unclear.
So I started to see, like, is there any roadmap to this inner work? So what we do, and that’s when
I’m like, I, uh—actually that was 2011, I remember very well—I met, uh, I found works of David
Hawkins. This was one year before he passed away. And I got so fascinated, and it just clicked so
much in my head what he introduced to people, specifically the map of consciousness. This, the
roadmap for this spiritual work and transformation.
Um, that I actually reached out to them, to Susie, his wife, and I was like, oh, I really wanna get to
know how to do that. Like, I wanna get certified by whatever you do. And she replied that he’s
not in condition, he’s already spending time kind of mostly in bed and just, you know, resting.
And at the same time, they never certified people.
And what she said to me is like, you have to read the books and then apply those tools in your
life. And that’s when the real work started. Because David was the first, the first, um, teacher in
my life who actually gave me practical, practical tools that I could apply to my life.
And that was really interesting, because that invited a lot of challenges, where I can see how
many people struggle with this. Because you start to take full accountability for your life, for your
emotions, for your thoughts, and everything that you have are the consequences of the past
choices, and on and on and on. So that was, uh, that was like the deeper work from David.
From that, I got to know A Course in Miracles, that I decided to go deeper into. Like, for people
who don’t know what it is, it’s one of the, I think, one of the most profound and life-changing
courses in general. Um, it took me to accomplish the course, just to give you understanding,
because most people, um, most of the time what is advertised is like, uh, master whatever in
thirty days, or like seven days, blah blah blah, you know? Like, or yeah, fourteen days breathwork,
become a master of breathwork. Uh huh.
And to me, that was always like, I understand people want to have something quick, but it just—
to break the illusions down—it’s not gonna happen so fast.
Viktoria Levenberg: Yeah.
James Stark: The Course in Miracles is like, it’s three hundred sixty-five lessons. That first time
that I finished the course, it took me seventeen months of everyday hard work. Literally everyday.
Like, I got so devoted to that.
But it was like, after a year of everyday work doing that course, uh, I just—I saw such a big shift
happen to me that, uh, I was like, wow. Everyone should do that. This is just incredible. Like, it’s
so powerful.
Um, and then I repeated this course a few years after for the second time. It took me, I think, uh,
fifteen months, uh, to accomplish. But in general, that became a big, big change.
So while doing the course, at some point of time, after the first round I finished, that’s where I
started to, to—I had started to like—and I feel people who, uh, who’ve done something similar,
maybe in different reality, they reach certain level of, um, experience. We want naturally to share
with others. It’s like, hey, you know that this is something so epic. If you really wanna be where I
am, like, then this is such a great state. That’s what you do. Just follow those steps, and that’s
where you will be.
And that’s when I started to go through that healing, healing modalities. How can I help people?
You know, doing a lot of subconscious work. Because that’s ultimately what is discovered, is that
subconsciously all of these beliefs, trapped emotions, the stories we hold from childhood, mostly
from past lives as well, that’s what creates or generates the reality around us.
Viktoria Levenberg: Yes.
James Stark: And through slowly, step by step, to bringing those things deeper from subconscious
mind into the reality and then working on that, uh, you know, I started to see those transitions
people have. You know, and like, you can call it a miracle, but in reality, it’s just the
transformation. You know, the old traumas that people might have had for years, and suddenly
just with releasing emotion, uh, things would shift. You know, the healing would come, like
suddenly the injury is not there anymore.
And the more you notice these things, the more you realise how powerful it is. And it was my
main motivation. I was like, wow, I really wanna start helping people through that. I also came to
deep intelligence about my emotions, different states of consciousness, and how to navigate
them.
So using the map of consciousness, I expanded my work, and I started to create a map of
emotions that will help me actually to, when I speak to someone who’s not aware, to show them
this modality and say, hey, if you learn that, and then you understand what actually is influencing
you at any present moment, and you know how to let go of a certain story or attachment to that
emotion, that’s when you will have incredible shifts.
And that was like the main thing that, um, with like a decade of my work with emotional
intelligence, working with subconscious mind, uh, you know, at some point of time I also was
studying herbs, how to heal the body through, you know, through herbs, through natural
remedies. And also some body work that I was doing with people to help them to release certain
traumas.
So it’s a combination of, like, body, soul, and, you know, like spirit, basically. Mm hmm.
Um, yeah. And then two years ago, three years ago, I was going through quite a challenging time
in my life. And, uh, I came to realisations that whatever I’d done, um, I have to put it into
something that people can, if they want, can get. ’Cause it’s a great experience that requires me
to somehow give it to the world, even if the world will not take it or is not ready yet to
understand. At least it’s there and available.
Yes. And that’s why I started to write a book. Like, in a way that, like, how would I—when I was at
the stage of my life when I was looking for the answers—how would it help me if I would find
such a book, you know? So I just condensed and put together, in the best possible way I could,
uh, the knowledge that I get from the experience of, like, a decade working with people. And,
like, you know, how you actually start applying those tools practically in your daily life. Mm hmm,
and, uh—
This book is, is like, uh, basically integration 101, uh. It’s like whatever you do, you have to
integrate through, through these tools, because if you just, again, right, just read, read a book
and you don’t, you don’t integrate certain, uh, certain things in your life, certain knowledge in
your life, yes, it’s not gonna change anything.
Yeah, I also created a, uh, for my work I created a emotional intelligence cards that help you to, to
work with a, with your subconscious mind. Mm hmm. And they really work quite, quite
powerfully, you know, because, uh, it’s the same as like tarot cards, you know, any other cards.
They enhanced with certain intentions behind, um, you know. And the, all the intentions I was
putting just based on love and condition towards people. So like, the main goal was never to
make it a business or like something that have to sell. The main goal was to give a tool. Uh huh,
right. And that was intention that is actually in that, in those cards.
And, uh, it’s interesting because when you in such creation, when you such flow and things come
out and like, I didn’t know what was gonna happen, what to expect, I was just like making it
happen. And then when it, when it happened, I started to offer people like, hey, let’s read your
subconscious mind, what’s going on. And yeah, you open in the cards and it’s just like, it’s like a,
you know, you literally see the map of what’s going on in someone’s life. Mm hmm, clearly. Mm
hmm.
And like, I’m sometimes, I’m still impressed even myself. I’m like, wow, they really work.
Interesting.
Viktoria Levenberg: Ha ha ha ha, yeah.
James Stark: But again, I, I was working on a kind of doing marketing around it and wanted to
spread it, uh, on like allowing people to have more access to that. But I don’t, I, I didn’t feel a big,
uh, resonance. Um, because most people don’t really understand the power of what I’m sharing.
And I understand it’s, it’s not easy, uh, maybe to get it because, you know, because it’s, it requires
for people to look honestly inside and say yes, I am, I have this habit, I am this, I lie to myself, I lie
to others, I manipulate, you know, kind of. It requires to be fully honest and requires to, to take
accountability, that which is very challenging for people these days. Uh huh.
And also it requires to, to put some work, not just a quick fix. Yeah, that, uh, that we notice these
days, unfortunately, due to the, you know, like, you know, short span of attention.
Viktoria Levenberg: Tell me about it. Hahaha.
James Stark: Yeah. I like then I finished the book, it was such a big release from, uh, from my
mental field. Hmm. Like, it’s so interesting. I recommend people who’ve been doing things for
many, many, many years, something that they kind of become expert in, that when you put so
many hours into things, just write a book about that. How can you give this experience to others?
It just helps to, I cannot explain it, but a decluttering of the mind, that it’s no longer mind, it just
becomes available to others. And I don’t feel it’s just like so much information. Just wow, such a
big release. Uh huh.
Really amazing experience to, to structure that in your head and put it out, and then it’s not
there anymore.
Viktoria Levenberg: It’s, it’s there, intangible,
James Stark: Intangible thing, you know. It’s not there anymore, like I have to explain something.
It’s, it’s already there. It’s, it’s, yeah, beautiful.
Viktoria Levenberg: And it’s like you can have someone read your book and, and then almost be,
you know, on a similar wavelength as you, because they’ve already had some of the preliminary
teachings that you spent a decade or more absorbing. Right. And as someone who like, yeah, you
go.
James Stark: Saving time. It’s like, you know, learning from mistakes from your parents basically,
yeah. You know, it’s the same idea. Like why would you waste, because I spent so much time and
I, the universe provided me this time. It said, here James, sit down, do the work. And I was doing
that like for years.
People don’t, most people don’t have years to sit and explore what I had to explore. And hence,
this is such a big gift. And someone, you know, kind of accomplished that and gifted. And it’s, it’s
so interesting. Like, I’m so, I feel sometimes upset because when I noticed how younger
generation, they mostly don’t read books. Hmm. Like at least what I have communication with.
Uh huh. Um, it makes me feel, um, sometimes like I’m losing hope in that, in a sense, because—
Just give you the idea. The other day, the other day I was, I was like, someone was like around in,
in the early twenties. And we spoke about, I was sharing about the certain herbs to take and like
certain detox to make to help the liver to, to cleanse. And we, we talked about like because of
after COVID situation, etcetera.
And then it was a woman, and then she said, but I think, uh, what you, what you offer here is not
correct. Uh, I’m like, why? Why do you say so? And she sends me a reel from Instagram, that AI
voice dictates something and say, you know, that it’s a conspiracy theory that someone marketed
this in this herb and it’s not healthy. And she said, yeah, because he said so, it is true, you know.
And I’m like, are you serious right now?
Viktoria Levenberg: Yeah, you know. The word that comes to mind right away, and David, and,
you know, Doctor Hawkins, is so potent in that discernment.
Discernment. It’s, as you say, I, I feel I, I resonate with what you’re saying, and, and I really hear
what you’re, you know, sharing around the, the Oracle, which I love, by the way. You know, I think
it’s such an incredible piece of work. And I’ve got you a copy of your book and, you know, have
worked with you for, for a long time.
It’s even if society at large might not be resonating with it yet, that’s the, that’s the caveat. It’s
the yet. Because a lot of people, especially you, you’re an Aquarius, right, uh, in your zodiac sign.
So you are the way-shower. You are the pack leader. You are the first to go and do the things that
most people are afraid of or unwilling to do. And then people follow in your footsteps, but they
will follow when they’re ready. And we don’t know when that is.
But I do have still hope in, in our future generations. And I genuinely believe that’s part of why
we’re here, is to kind of help create this, this new earth and expand consciousness as a whole.
James Stark: And it’s a collective. I, I know, like it’s a collective consciousness that we put our
effort into. If I transcend it, that I know someone, it’s, you know, like that’s how it works, right?
It’s like a beehive. If one bee figured out something, suddenly everyone will know eventually.
Like, uh huh, you know, there is water right there because one bee figured it out.
So I know that whatever we put the work, even if it’s not visible in this present moment, I know
that slowly people are awakening. And then they already don’t have to do that much work. They
already kind of intuitively start to know because you and me, we, we put effort before. Yeah.
That’s, that’s, I hope, like that’s really, that’s really how, how it’s, it’s gonna happen.
But at the same time, there is such a big separation. Like the gap is getting very strong between
those people who are kind of willing to like, you know, to grow, evolve. Because evolution, it’s not
about, um, material things. It’s actually about this growth inside the spirit, spiritual evolution.
And those who doesn’t wanna do anything for like, they’re going another direction. They don’t
even wanna, uh, listen. I’m interested in what you say, yeah.
And, um, you know, in my personal observations, this gap is getting bigger and bigger and bigger.
Viktoria Levenberg: Same.
Same. And I don’t know about you, but I’m noticing definitely people who are like picking things
up, who previously were potentially really closed off and like really in their ego, really in their
limiting beliefs, all of a sudden starting to, as you say, like wake up and see things differently.
And then that other gap, I don’t know about you, but I’m, I’m also seeing a lot of people pass.
And I know there is this, I, and I don’t know if you want to talk to this, um, you know, sort of the
change that’s sort of in our community, spoken about in 2027, around kind of this almost
separation between these two worlds. Um, but I do genuinely start to see this sort of tangent
coming. And, um, I’d be curious if, if you’re also experiencing that in, in your reality.
James Stark: Uh, yeah. So that’s, this is the topic that comes with the, this, this new, new—my
removing the identity that I was doing for many years. Because I felt that I had to do that. It’s like,
it’s like this. So you’re a good, you’re a good student. Let’s say there is like some, let’s imagine
there is a, some kind of God. People call it higher self, universe, whatever. Like, but let’s, let’s use
the word God. It’s, it’s easier.
So there is God, and we all children. Some of the children are really doing good, like, uh, with the
tools and with, with kind of channelling the energy. So those who understand that, those, they
have to kind of take a responsibility and teach others who actually not good in, in the, in the
classroom. So you gonna, hey, do this and that.
Viktoria Levenberg: Ha ha ha, yeah.
James Stark: But eventually, right, like you graduate from the school, you said they give you
diploma—
You like done, and then you go into this, uh, new level. Mm hmm, right. We’re not, and we’re not
gonna talk about like university or something. It’s more about now you’re in a world where you’re
free to do anything. You’re free to be anything. And that’s, to me, resonates a lot with, uh, with
what described described in the Bible. When Yeshua was going through his path, at some point
he came to, to freedom from the karmic cycle. That way he accomplished the work.
And that’s in the Bible. So the devil came and started to tempt him. It’s temptations. Oh, now you
can be anything. You can be a successful businessman because you know how energies work. If
you keep your mind positive, you will manifest the new kingdom for yourself. Or you can do this,
you know. And those are, to me, like this, this world, uh, is amazing, but there are so many
temptations around that you have to kind of still hold the, the space and still, in this moment,
surrendering to the kind of higher power, to the will of higher power. Yes.
So okay, if those are temptations, but I don’t really know if this is my, my path, because it’s, uh,
it’s so not easy to see, even for me after so many years, it’s so not easy to see if that’s the
direction. Because there are so many misleading directions. Mm hmm, you know. I only, I learned
that I only listen to my intuition and my heart, how it feels. If it doesn’t resonate, it just doesn’t
resonate. Yeah. I don’t do that. Mm hmm.
And that’s what brought me to the point where kind of I feel like I accomplished this part where I
had to be, to help as many people as I could. And I know there are many, many people like myself
who also been doing that for a long time, not as a business, but as a pure intention that they
really wanted to help.
I wanna make a distinction between that, because yeah, when I started doing that like twelve
years ago, hmm, we didn’t have, um, not, not to this degree that it’s a business like it became
now very commercialised.
Viktoria Levenberg: Yes.
James Stark: Now it’s become about building funnel marketing, returning, returning, returning
client.
Viktoria Levenberg: Oh my gosh, that is my biggest pet peeve about the industry. You should not
have a client need to return unless it’s for community, right?
James Stark: No, no, but I exactly. I’m a healer. I don’t want to be returning clients. So as a
business model, I’m very unsuccessful. Like it’s not successful business model. But I, that’s what
created so much, um, challenges for the past few years. Because I started to notice people who
took only like, you know, two months of studying, and then now suddenly the healers and
teachers or shamans, whatever, and guiding people like, oh, you gonna see spirits and I show you
the medicine on this. And I’m like, wow, this is getting so dangerous.
Because it’s a really serious things. It’s, it’s not, I always say people don’t take it lightly. It’s very
big, um, uh, consequences if you do with the wrong people. It’s, it’s important. And you know,
this commercialising for me, like wow, it’s, it’s a, it’s, it’s going in the, in, in not in a healthy
direction. Yeah.
So like I, and I really don’t wanna compete with, with others. I don’t wanna go around and say,
hey, you better buy my services because I’m better. Like, I don’t wanna do that. But at the same
time, my struggle is if I don’t show up, because of all of this noise, people do not, not many
people see me. Like yes, of course, I trust the process and it’s always been like that. The right
people always come. Uh huh.
But we also live in a world where you have to pay this and that, like for a living and rent and, and
this, yeah. And, uh, it’s getting a, it’s getting challenge. Like, and that’s, I also have to surrender.
I’m like, okay, I surrender, because I don’t want to play that, that entertainment and that, uh,
business game out of my, uh, pure intentions to help people.
I really didn’t want this to be of, to become a business. Of course, book, I made a book, I printed
it. If you buy it, it’s, it’s great, because, because, because it’s energy exchange. It’s amazing, yes.
But at the same time, how can I, uh, refuse, let’s say someone coming to me and they really need
help, but, uh, they cannot afford what I would charge. Yeah. You know, like yeah. And then I say,
of course, like, you know, whatever you can afford, uh, let’s do that. Uh huh.
So it’s, you know, from people who my, some of the friends I have, they, they are very deep in
entrepreneurship. They do in business. And, um, and you know yourself as consumer-based
economy is always, yeah, on returning client and increasing the return on investment and the,
the—here we are coming to that, to the, to my point, my crisis, where I like, I really don’t wanna
do that. I like, I don’t wanna do that. I don’t wanna get involved into this, um, the way it works,
the way world wants me to do that. Yeah.
And I just started to let go. Just fully surrendering, and I’m like, uh, okay, so let’s see where it will
lead me. So it’s kind of really experiment where it will lead me. And I started to remove this
identity that who, who am I really beyond this, beyond teaching, beyond writing, beyond helping
people, beyond my whatever, my work, my integrations, my spiritual experience.
Because ego is so subtle and so smart. It always with us.
Viktoria Levenberg: Yes. Even when you are higher on the map of consciousness.
Right. Like what I’m hearing you say is like right now you’ve had like an exponential surge. And I
vividly remember in, in David’s teachings and in your teachings, like, you know, the ego doesn’t
stop at courage. If anything, the ego gets trickier the higher up the map you go, because it’s, it’s
sneaky. It’s, yeah.
James Stark: It’s getting, it’s getting more advanced with you. It’s like the stronger you are, the
stronger the ego will be. That’s where, that’s where you need really, like that’s where the, all the
tools that I learned, that’s where it’s really powerful to have them.
But I always remind, uh, even myself, like it’s a, everything is a tool. Uh huh. It’s, it’s a tool. Like
because, you know, it’s, um, it’s like a breathwork, uh. Now there is a popular, I don’t know if, if
it’s from a new location, they have, they have this right now, but they’ve been doing so much
marketing around it. It’s called nine D breathwork.
Viktoria Levenberg: If you, I’ve heard about it.
I’ve heard about it, yes. Um, but we, I don’t think it’s made its way to New Zealand just yet.
James Stark: Yeah.
So they like, I know these people. I know the team who’ve been doing that. And I know for them
it’s pure commercial, um, idea, right?
Viktoria Levenberg: It looked very commercial.
Yeah, it is.
James Stark: They are, they are great, uh, businessmen. They wanna, they wanna spread it and
like, you know, market it very well. And I had a story with them, because when I was, uh, going
through quite challenging time, I came to, to speak. I know like the, the big guy there. I spoke to
him. We’ve been kind of in a friendship zone.
And I said, listen, I’m kind of going through quite a, quite a challenge. Like I’ve been doing things
by myself for a long time. And I showed him the tools that I made. Like, look, this is like
something that’s so powerful. There are so many people are healed from that. But I need support
of like, let’s partner up. I’m, I’m happy to share fifty percent whatever you, you can offer to
expand it, because you are great at doing business.
And you know, in his idea, he told me, I don’t want to do that because it’s not kind of, it’s not a
return, like returning clients. It’s not scalable.
Viktoria Levenberg: Yeah, it’s not scalable. Yeah, correct.
James Stark: It’s not really scalable. Like, I don’t want to do that. And that’s, to me, it was like,
whoa. Uh, okay, uh. I thought, but he’s such, he was like, he’s meditating like twenty hours a day,
you know, kind of, mmm.
That’s why, but there…
Viktoria Levenberg: There comes the discernment. You know, it’s like, well, how much of that is
the facade and almost the ego of an identity and attachment that’s in line with like that business
versus actual true spirit guidance.
Alright, that’s really interesting that you say that.
James Stark: So what I wanted to share about this, this, the breathwork, right. So every, like for
them, it’s like if you’re not feeling well, come back to us and listen again to this guidance. Yeah.
You know. Well, to me, it’s like here’s the tool. You can do it anytime you, you want and in the
present moment, free in your life. Hahaha.
Yeah, you don’t have to pay, because everything is a tool. It’s a tool. Meditation, uh. I have a good
another example. It’s just so interesting. Like, uh, because he been doing, he been deeply into
yoga. Mm hmm. And specifically into Kundalini yoga. And, um, he has his practice where you
have to wake up exactly at four thirty, specifically, and do like three hours every morning. He has
to do things.
And, um, and we had this conversation. And it’s like, you know, it’s a tool. Like where you wanna
go with that? And that’s what the beauty of map of consciousness is. Like, okay, you’re using this,
good. It’s your practice. I have no judgment. Whatever works for you works for you. Perfect. But
where you going with that? And why you doing this practice? Because you wanna reach what
state?
Let’s say like, and he’s not even, he doesn’t even know. He has like, he think there’s some kind of
idea of enlightenment and liberation where, I don’t know, you’re gonna be like angel suddenly
and like things gonna open up, which is completely unreal. Hmm. But that’s, that’s what he is
thinking about that. Mm hmm.
And if he doesn’t do his practice, he is just worse than people who doesn’t even do, uh, any
spiritual work. You know, yeah.
Viktoria Levenberg: And there, the attachment, right.
Like, thank you for saying that, because I’ve been practising, uh, my, one of my spiritual teachers,
she, uh, she’s a tantric yogi. So, you know, kind of in this, uh, not in the neo-tantra sense of the
world, like the sexual part, but more like, you know, the yogis that didn’t go the traditional
Brahman route, but were like the, the, uh, rebels that were just householder yogis. And, uh, it’s
passed down through Christopher Wallace.
And anyway, so she, um, teaches a practice, uh, also that is called uchara. And it’s this similar like
emotional release practice that she did for one thousand days, right? Like in yoga, they say, okay,
master a practice to truly master it and to teach it. The more you embody it, just like with your
work, ten years, the more you live the practice, the more powerful the transmission when you
share it with others.
And so that kept her motivated for a really long time. And once she hit this magical one
thousand, you know, her spiritual teacher, Christopher Wallace, said, so what do you think is
gonna happen if you don't show up for a day? Do you think your spiritual journey is over, like just
because you're not doing the practice? Like, no. So then her journey and her challenge became
releasing her attachment from this practice, which is so interesting. Like he said, like right now, it
seems like there's a real big attachment to that.
And, um, I think we all have those. But yeah, it's sneaky. Sneaky ego. It’s always just one tiny little
step ahead of us, and we've got to pull it out of the way and make sure it's not puppeteering us.
James Stark: Absolutely, absolutely. That was my—I started doing that. I had a very profound, like,
um, I had experience with, for the first time in my life, the DMT experience I had. Mm hmm. And
it was, I think, four years ago. That's when it started to me.
I was also like, you know, because I listen to what other people say, they basically like fly to other
dimensions, speak to whatever, you know, like DMT aliens. Yeah. It's like, I was like, wow, that's
something that I wanna try. And I was looking for the right person to guide me for that. And it
came to my life, and I didn't experience nothing. Like it was literally, I was in the same state as I
would usually reach for meditation.
But there, I just—only thing that it came to me, it asked me, like, there is a voice. What else do
you wanna know? Why are you still looking for answers? I’m like, uh, I don't know. And I started
to realise that this is what ego wants—to learn more. Yeah. More knowledge, more this,
Viktoria Levenberg: More tools.
James Stark: Yeah. It’s becoming it.
Because now ego is so boosted, because like, whoa, I know so much, I know so much better than
other people. Mm hmm. I’m like, I really don't know. But I think it became a habit, right?
Attachments to like knowing, going for information, studying, practising, and like this.
And it's just—I said, wow, that's such a good question. I really don't need to know anything. It's
like I have to be. And it was nothing. It only said, just be. That's it.
And that was the entire journey for me like that. You know, after all of these expectations that I'm
gonna see aliens or other things. Hahaha. But it was very profound, because then I realised, oh,
my next growth would be is to release the attachment to what I know, believe I know, because it's
all linear thinking. And the real spirituality is non-linear, is beyond thinking.
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James Stark: And we cannot reach that unless we release that mind attachment and go into the
heart. And that's what I started to apply four years ago, more and more and more and more. And
it came right now to a point that I just—I am like, when people ask me, what do you do, I cannot
answer the question. Yeah. I am. I just cannot explain.
Like my mom, she doesn’t—she cannot understand what I do. She doesn't really get it, like no
matter how hard I try. And I like—I don't want to put myself into a box.
Viktoria Levenberg: A box.
James Stark: And that's what social media wants, you know, because it's all about niche. Find
your niche and kind of solve the problem. Yeah, sell your service, right? Yeah.
And like, I don't know. I'm—I don't wanna be niche. I actually like to be wide. But that's another
interesting challenge in that.
Viktoria Levenberg: Yes, yes. And, you know, you mentioned you're on this precipice, and
energetically what's going on. As you said, you might not have the clarity or the answer yet, but
your trust in yourself and in God and in everything is so powerful that it will come at the right
time.
And it's so interesting that you say that, because I had a similar, um—you know, obviously
nowhere near as advanced in my spiritual practice as yourself, but we're meeting ourselves
where we are, right?
And I had a really similar experience where I noticed I had this really big attachment to this
identity of, like, health coach and yoga teacher and this, and all this knowledge, and I can help
people, and I can help them heal and stress. And then I realised—you see, the knowing that I
had, where, you know, for you, you wanna help everyone—I have this knowing with a capital K.
Like you said, self with a capital S.
I know with a capital K who I am here to serve. And it came through that the best way to serve
these people isn't through the healing modalities that I just spent the last five years acquiring.
Hahaha. It's actually through what I already know and the gifts that I was given coming into this
world just by being me.
And, you know, through these last few weeks, I'm obviously integrating the two, because I get to
now create this beautiful synergy between the divine masculine structures that I've been so
familiar with and the divine feminine healing that I have had the privilege of learning.
So it's kind of bringing this into a sacred union. And yet, in the last few weeks, there was a real
ego death of, like, removing the titles, you know, from my profile. It's just like, who are you? I'm
just Viktoria Levenberg. I'm not even gonna call myself anything. I'm just here. I am. This is what I
do. This is who I help.
And it sounds like you're on quite a similar trajectory, which is humbling and empowering at the
same time. Because isn't that just the sole profound truth—that we are simply here to be who
we are, to deliver the gifts we came with?
James Stark: Absolutely. And that's—I think that's the ultimate truth. But it's also a big challenge.
But first of all, it's important so we don't compare. It's not someone is more advanced or another
is less. As you say.
Viktoria Levenberg: It's just different. It's just different.
Different experiences, different life stories.
James Stark: It's more about, um, the more you wake up to that, the more you start to see the
truth around. And you see how what people call matrix and all of that brainwashing is so built
around moving away as much as possible from this understanding that we just have to be here.
And it was the entire idea of the world was actually to provide that experience here, you know,
just to be. Because that's when people feel the most aligned and the most alive, is when they are
somewhere in nature, in a state of actually this being.
You know, you don't have to look, what's the next meeting? You're just there. You're having this
experience. And this is where ultimately, like, the perfect experience that we're meant to be.
Then, you know, things started to come and this and that. And now, like, yeah, so many
distractions all around. So that's what leads us away from that state of being.
Viktoria Levenberg: Yeah. Yes. It's so simple, but it's not easy. I think this is the challenge—people
confuse simplicity with ease.
And I remember, you know, it's like when you taught us the letting go method, like your Alim
method also that you developed. It is so profound. But the ego brain will dilute it and think, oh,
it's not complicated enough, because we glorify complexity. We glorify, you know, again, we like
really hard things. The harder I work, the more I get.
And in true honesty, it's like actually the hardest work—again, like one of my teachers says—the
most advanced yogi is the yogi that can be in child's pose for one hour. It's not the one that can
do a handstand. You know?
James Stark: Exactly. Hahaha. Yeah. Simplicity is always the key. And that's always the main
marker for the truth. The simpler things are, the more they're really close to the truth. The more
complicated—if you open something and it's so complicated to get, don't do that. Ha ha ha. It's
gonna make things really complicated. Ego likes to overcomplicate.
Viktoria Levenberg: Absolutely. And I'm so curious, you know, whether if someone listening to
what you have to share is kind of resonating but also a little bit confused. Like, okay, they're
talking about this ego. Who is this ego, and what do I do?
You know, if someone's a complete beginner in this phase and not even aware of the hold that
their ego, monkey mind, has over them, what would you advise them? Where would you advise
them to start?
James Stark: First, let's understand what it is actually. Most people don't really get it, don't really
grasp it, because for them it's more like when it's being selfish, that means ego.
So from my understanding, my experience, and the way I compare is there is a—we have animal
nature and kind of like spiritual nature in us. Not everyone, but people who will be listening to
you probably will have it.
Viktoria Levenberg: Ha ha ha ha, yeah. I'm pretty sure I filtered out the NPCs you know?
James Stark: Let's say like this.
There’s also two different things that people say: soul and the spirit. And when you ask what is
the difference, most people actually don't really know, because it's very difficult to understand.
But to me, that’s what I identified.
Soul naturally belongs to kind of the animal kingdom. That's what’s been evolving through this
physicality for animals. That's our survival mechanisms. That's all of our physical needs.
And the spirit is something that's kind of divine in us. And so soul—this is what evolves in this
reality. The soul evolves because spirit already knows everything. It doesn't need any evolution.
It's already complete, profound, etcetera.
But soul is this animal nature that's evolving. And a very good example is in the book, but also in
the movie Dune. Yes. This Bene Gesserit woman, when she got this young man—I forgot his
name already—to test him, she asked him to put a hand into the box, where suddenly there was
like the strongest pain.
And then he sustained it. He could control it without running away. And she said, “Oh, you
actually passed because you are human. If you were just an animal, you would cut off your hand
and run away, because the survival instinct would kick in, and then you would just follow purely
instincts, like an animal.”
So to me, it's a very good example that ego is this nature. And when you evolve, you start to
transcend this animal nature, and you start to master it. So you control your emotions, your
thoughts, your instincts. You only allow it to work when you need it.
So that would be the difference. Ego is that animal part in us, in the raw form. Hence, when we
say ego, that's the animal survival mechanism, which has the right to exist, but should not control
us.
And that's the main difference. It's like, are you controlled by your sexual desires, or desires for
fame, your pride? Are you controlled by your anger? Are you controlled by your judgments,
which is a very big thing today? Are you controlled by your shame from childhood, or not?
So if you are controlled by this, on the map of consciousness those are the lowest states. If those
are controlling you, that means your ego is very actively controlling your life. And you basically
live like an animal, in survival—fight or flight. Or you are only focused on what's best for you, and
you cannot actually think about how we can do good things for everyone.
And that's the difference. Let's not touch the spiritual ego topic because it will make things
complicated, but basically the main thing we do here in this life, I believe, is learning how not to
be animal and how to become human.
There is a very good—I read—I forgot, a long time ago—but it’s basically what Yeshua, or Jesus,
as most people know him, represents. He showed how to make—he said his bride is the soul.
So he basically—the main idea is to marry the spirit and the soul, and allow the spirit to kind of,
you know, raise—rise—the soul to the experience of what it is to be a real human.
And how to be—just to be—and everything is provided. And everything is provided for that. But
because we live in these animal instincts, that’s what we create—all of this conflict, all of this
pain, all of this judgment. And, you know, that’s the challenge.
Viktoria Levenberg: Mm hmm, yes. And with that understanding, if someone says like, “Okay, I
think I’m probably in the lower states of consciousness. I’m pretty sure my nervous system is
fried. I’m constantly in fight or flight. And yes, ninety percent of my thoughts are about my needs,
to be honest.”
Some people might not be willing to admit it, but if they are brave enough—where from here?
James Stark: Well, where do we start? That’s your question—where do we start from there?
Yeah.
Viktoria Levenberg: Once—I always say awareness is the first step, right? Without awareness,
there cannot be any change. So obviously for me, that is the foundation: understanding how the
ego works, why it’s there, accepting it, and also having the courage to look yourself in the mirror
at how you contributed to your current life circumstances.
And I think this is—once people hit that crucial tipping point, normally when the student is ready,
the teacher will appear. And at the same time, it might be helpful to hear, okay, what’s the right
next step?
James Stark: So that’s—you’re actually kind of describing the same as I put in the book. The
method that I introduce people to—Alim. A-L-I-M. Awareness is the first step. Awareness is to
look inward and understand what’s actually going on.
The main work only starts when we take our attention from the outside to the inside. How am I
feeling?
And the main goal is not to try to do this deep analysis, but just simply try to understand what’s
going on energetically.
Hence, emotional intelligence is—I think—would be a great second step for a lot of people. You
don’t have to master it, but at least start learning about what you feel. What’s actually driving
your life, what’s driving your choices.
And that’s like the map of consciousness. If you know where you start from, you start going into
those topics a little bit, and that’s when the real journey will open up.
And then—of course—there is no unified path. Everyone will have their separate path. But it’s
basically all about the same and leading to the same point eventually. That’s liberation.
When we let go of the control of ego over our lives. When we stop being animals right now, and
start being loving human beings—
Viktoria Levenberg: Emphasis on beings, by the way.
James Stark: Yes—beings.
Viktoria Levenberg: Yes. And I love, love, love that you said that. And I’m so grateful that we get
to have this conversation, and that you downloaded and published your book, and that you
created the Emotional Intelligence Oracle cards.
Because it is exactly what I teach in my work as well. Everything you’re being—it starts at the
nervous system. It’s that ego. If you’re dysregulated, you’ve got to get that in check first.
Your nervous system is what generates your emotions. So that is such a crucial, important step—
to begin to not necessarily master it, but start to understand and have the courage to actually
feel those emotions.
Because that energy—it’s just energy and emotion. And if it’s trapped, it’s going to stay stuck.
And unfortunately, that’s what then feeds the thoughts and beliefs, which then repeat the same
patterns.
And so if we really want to shift at an identity level, we’ve got to start there first. It doesn’t work
the other way around. You can’t work your way to a new reality.
James Stark: Yeah, absolutely. And for people who are very skeptical, like I suggest to work on
that skepticism. If they are so skeptical, they can do the research and actually find there are a lot
of scientific studies that describe that emotion works, I think, four hundred times faster than our
mental process.
So that means working on that removes the unnecessary thoughts. And going into this
energetic—also a very beautiful example would be that our body is mostly water, and it’s also
proven scientifically that water has memory.
So that means everything that we experience sits there. So emotion is that trapped frequency
from all the experience—that’s what we’re dealing with.
So ultimately, the goal of any spiritual work is to unlearn, not actually learn something new. You
have the spirit, you learn the tools—but now these tools are used to unlearn all the baggage that
you have with you for years and lifetimes.
And unlearning is what liberates. This is liberation. That’s what all of these great sages have
taught for a long time.
It’s always been a secret of yogic traditions. They never spoke about unlearning. They would only
give it to initiated people.
And as you said yourself, these rogue yogis started to introduce yoga to everyone. Because
before, only Brahman—the spiritual people—could be initiated into those tools.
And from my studies and research, from what I understood, that’s why they know very well who
Yeshua was. He was actually in Tibet studying through them.
And a lot of them didn’t like him because he wanted—and that’s what he did—give tools to the
Shudras. Shudras is the lowest caste of people who should work…
Viktoria Levenberg: Like householders.
James Stark: Farmers, householders
He wanted to give those spiritual tools to the Shudras, which before only belonged to the highest
caste of Brahmans.
Hence, we are here now to have all the tools. And that’s a great awakening—that everyone has
access to everything.
But at the same time, there is such a big dilemma. Because now we actually have access to things
like this.
When I was younger, I could not find things. I had to go to the library. You remember those times.
Viktoria Levenberg: Yes, I do.
James Stark: We didn’t have internet. If we could it was impossible to find something. You had to
go to the library, find books. Spiritual books didn’t exist there. It would only come if someone
somehow gave it to you. It was very different.
But now it’s available. It’s fantastic. So a lot of people are scared of AI. It’s another big thing, and
there is a reason for that. I totally agree.
There are people behind it—certain individuals with their agenda. It’s business, control, etcetera.
But again, it’s a tool. You can use it for something good for yourself.
And that’s what I started to do. I call it a podcast, but actually what I started to do was get access
to the books that I always wanted to read or research.
But there are so many books that none of us will have a lifetime to get. So the other day—
yesterday—I was making this podcast about children’s psychology, which I always wanted to
learn.
But it’s thousands and thousands of pages of very difficult professional language, which requires
a lot of time to study. People dedicate their lifetime to one topic.
And I use AI for myself. I use AI to get into this book—
Digest them into the structures that I need, and then in combination give me the, the knowledge
that I can now apply, I can use. And I started to do this podcast with AI doing them for me but
based on exactly the book. It’s not going, yeah, it’s not going to hallucinate or create the idea
that this is how it works, mmm. Like you know, we noticed a lot, yes, these days in ChatGPT and
other—
Viktoria Levenberg: Oh my God yeah—
James Stark: They, they miss, miss create misinformation. They just, yes,
Viktoria Levenberg: They’re making stuff up all the time.
James Stark: Yeah yeah, making stuff up. Uh, so I’m avoiding that. I find the, find what actually
can study the book. And just when they give you the summary, they actually make a quote where
in the book they found it, so I can double-check that it’s not just a lie, yeah. And that’s for me,
like when I’m driving the bike around sometimes I go, let’s say surfing, I need to drive 30 minutes.
Mm hmm, in 30 minutes I can, I created this podcast based on 10 books, yeah. And I already
received the knowledge, mm hmm, the what I need, uh huh, from those books to get me, oh
okay, I didn’t know that before, that’s quite interesting. And then you can even communicate
after that more, you know, with, with AI on that topic. I’m just as example how I love that and
how it’s, it is so useful to have these days to get the, the right tools exactly.
The biggest reminder is, you know, always it’s not a, it’s not only what you know, it’s what you
apply. So that’s always the, that’s the thing.
Viktoria Levenberg: There’s always a big difference, you know, between knowledge and knowing.
And I call it like knowing almost with a capital K, because we can consume and we are in this
consumer, consumer, you know, society. But everything comes back to, what are you gonna do
with this information? And, um, with that in mind, you know, like the signature question that I ask
every guest that comes on to the podcast, and I would also love to ask you to our listeners, if
there was just one thing that would resonate with them long after this episode ends, what do
you wish that one thing would be,
James Stark: If there is a challenge in question or uncertainty about things or decisions, always
ask yourself, is it based, is my decision based on fear or based on love, and always choose love.
Viktoria Levenberg: Yes. Yes, yes, yes, haha. That just landed so deeply in my heart as well. Love
over fear always. Always, always, always. Wow, yeah. Thank you.
James Stark: There would be already enough to, to start choosing lives every day. Is it based on
love not fear.
Viktoria Levenberg: Exactly. Love is, you know, one of the highest frequencies that a human being
can embody. And it’s, it’s accessible to us all, because we all have someone or something in our
life that we love. So no matter, you know, where we are most of our day, it’s a familiar sensation.
And I’m so incredibly grateful, you know, to have had the privilege of receiving your teachings in
our work together, in, in this new chapter as well of, of your life. And I know you’re kind of in this
precipice, and what’s about to emerge is still kind of really new and fresh, and at the same time
you do have a lot of resources and things people could, uh, you know, either get, uh, wisdom
from now or find you somewhere. So how can people work with you? Um, how can they find you
or find some of your tools if, if they want to learn more?
James Stark: Yeah, for those who use Instagram, that’s, that’s what they can find me. Uh huh, and
the name I use there, Spirit of James, it’s, it’s one to get a, just one, one name together. Spirit of
James, it’s very easy. They can reach out to me anytime. I’m always reply, and, uh, it’s the same,
it’s the same tag name in, in Telegram if they use Telegram. Um, and, uh, that’s basically it. Like
that’s how they can find. From my, from, from my name, James Stark, uh, book in, uh, in on
Amazon if they want us to learn a little bit more about emotional intelligence and understand
what map of consciousness is, um, uh, the book is called The Alim Method. A L I M, it’s four
letters: awareness, letting go, intention, mindfulness, that’s what it stands for, um, yeah. Or they
can reach out to you and you give them the contact.
Viktoria Levenberg: Absolutely. I’ll also make sure to put all of your links in the show notes, so like
we’ll, we’ll link up your Instagram page, your book, uh, I’ll link up your podcast as well, in case
people are like, oh yeah, I would love a book summary in a, in a podcast. I think that’s a great
idea by the way, um, because I also have a list of so many books that I wanna read, and I’m like
there’s no way I’m gonna read this in multiple lifetimes, um, so really really smart use of AI there,
um. And also I’m actually really curious if someone wanted to get their hands on your Oracle
cards, whether slash how they could do that.
James Stark: They can’t. I, I didn’t release them, um. They only can, can you experience it for, for
me at the moment. Mm hmm, there is no yet, uh, availability. Mm hmm, um, but I, I believe the
time will come. Then we’ll be more, more demand, more community that’s gonna start using
them, but it hasn’t arrived yet. So yes, let’s see.
Viktoria Levenberg: More of a reason to come see you either in Bali in person or, or jump on a
call and, and get a reading.
James Stark: Yeah, absolutely.
Viktoria Levenberg: Thank you. Thank you so much for coming on to the podcast. I’m honestly
eternally grateful, and I have, you know, keep shining your light and, and your love, and you, you
are our way shower. You know, you are our Aquarius leading the pack. And I, I know it might be a,
a challenging and lonely road sometimes, being at the front of the line all the time, um, and yet it
is so, so vitally important. So yeah, from the bottom of my heart.
James Stark: Right on point, right on point. I really appreciate it. Lots of love, and my only, you
know, greatest and best wishes for you as well. And let’s be in touch.
Viktoria Levenberg: This episode was such a pleasure to facilitate and, you know, to reconnect.
It’s been a while since I have spoken to James and, uh, you know, we go way back, like, you know,
he, he’s seen what’s in my subconscious. So there’s not many people who go to that level of
intimacy with your monkey mind, let alone your, your depths of, of your reality. So it’s been really
truly such an honour and privilege to, um, bring his voice, his story, and his teachings to you.
And some of my personal insights and reflections after this conversation, um, are really around,
you know, this delicate balance between our physical 3D and this unmanifest spiritual, maybe a
little bit woo, 5D reality.
And of course, you know, some of you might be thinking, oh my gosh Vic, but like here you are
selling me the dream on how to get more done in less time, so I can achieve my goals with ease.
Yeah, absolutely. That is my calling. That is what I came here to do.
Because as soon as you can get all those things out of your way that are occupying your monkey
mind, you begin to unlock the deeper potentials that have been lying and residing within you.
And you see, most people when they think achievement, they, they really do, um, confabulate it
with material things, material possessions, titles, careers, labels, and all those things. And don’t
get me wrong, like there’s nothing wrong with being ambitious and wanting those things. But
there comes a time in your evolution, and that time may be in this lifetime, it may be in a future
lifetime, who knows, um, but there comes a time where those things lose their importance.
And I vividly remember—and this is, this is such a funny story, I’m not gonna kind of give away
too many of the details—but, um, in my corporate experience for a really, really long time I, I
wanted a specific award. It was like one of the most rare awards that, that is ever given out. It’s
only given to one person. It’s only given out once a year. And of course, being the high performer,
high achiever, I like, I wanted that thing so bad. And like many years I would get nominated and
not get it, and nominated and not get it. And like it was always just like this, you know, like this
carrot that got dangled in front of my nose, just close enough, but not quite close enough to
reach it. And it drove me for a really long time. And then the funny thing is, you know, um, it, I
got the award eventually. But by the time I got it, I didn’t even want it anymore because at that
point I was sort of on, on my own spiritual journey, and it lost its importance. And it was such a
perfect, profound realisation and example of how the things that our ego, monkey mind is
clasping onto, is holding on to so, so deeply, are really, they’re already there. But the more you
want it, the more you’re actually repelling it. It’s, it’s kind of this really interesting dichotomy.
So anyways, I say all this, um, because it—and this is what I teach inside Efficiency Made Easy—
it’s like week one, we start with the why. We start with the identity. Because most people are just
stuck with running on the hamster wheel doing, doing, producing, producing, achieving,
achieving, and they don’t even ever ask themselves why. They don’t ever ask themselves, is this
truly what I came here to do? They don’t ask themselves, is this really fulfilling me, like on a deep
soul level? And Nietzsche—oh my gosh—I’m gonna butchering this name. Nietzsche anyways,
this poet who I cannot pronounce, Nietzsche. Why can’t I pronounce this word? Nietzsche
anyways. God, this is like super profound, and yet here I am butchering a poet’s name. I’m not
even gonna try it anymore. A famous poet once said, he who has a strong enough why can bear
almost any how.
The issue in our modern-day-to-day world is we don't spend enough time sitting with the why.
We just focus on the how, the do, the do, the do.
So if you, you know, like James in this example, in this episode, feel called to do something, like
on a soul level, it's just coming through in this flow state, it's this download, it's like, you know,
with a capital K, this is what you are here to do, but you're not getting any response or any
traction or anything, it's like it's slow—do it anyway. That calling, that inner knowing, is there for
a reason. Trust it. Follow. While people might not yet be ready to hear what you have to say, they
will eventually be ready, cause you might, like James, be one of those way-showers.
And I've got so many examples, you know, I mean like take even Harry Potter books, right? JK
Rowling, I think she got what, declined from like 12 or 14 publishers before she finally found one
that—and look at it now, it's like it's a legacy, um. You know, my financial coach and mentor Kate
Northrup, she published a book called Do Less—that's also actually a big influence on the work
that I do today—and yet when she published it, I think it was like around 2020 or something, um,
it was just, it was a little bit too early for its time. People weren't ready yet, and yet now it's like
all the hype and people are ready.
So you might just be one of those way showers. It might need multiple iterations, just like in my
example, you know, like running my own business—things, you know, we're just a little bit harder
at the beginning because I needed to adjust course and course correct to find the right trajectory.
And the thing is that clarity isn't gonna come from sitting on your hands. That clarity is gonna
come from action.
So my invitation to you this week is: pick a tool, pick a teacher, pick a strategy. Pick something
that has been calling your attention. Just start small, start somewhere. Start to get to know your
ego, you know, that little monkey mind, those thoughts that keep circling around in your brain.
Start to sit with your emotions. Feel, feel, feel. Give them a name. Learn how to discern one from
the other. And begin to really be curious about what's going on in your inner world, not from a
place of like judgment or trying to change or control anything—simply allowing it to be, but
bringing conscious awareness to what is. And as soon as you do that, honestly, the possibilities
become endless.
So here you have it: your episode on transcending the ego so that you can finally discover the
truth of who you really are and what you came here to do. And if, like James, you have a story
that you would love to share and bring on to this podcast so other people—other incredible kind-
hearted, loving, ambitious humans—can get inspired and feel seen, you know, I genuinely believe
in this grandiose magnetism of community where when we come together and you might hear
something that you technically have already heard before and you already know, but just the way
that person says it or the way the example they use in their life, it will hit different, and that
might just be the catalyst that you need to propel you in the right step. So your story might be
that exact catalyst.
So if you feel like, hey, you know what, there's something here, send me a DM. I would love to
have a chat, talk about perhaps bringing you on the show so that collectively we can elevate our
consciousness, we can cocreate this beautiful new earth together, and truly help more people
thrive, so that we can all live a healthier, happier life.
Until next week, thank you so much for listening. Bye for now.
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