Resonance – Episode 10
Verbatim Transcript
Speaker: Viktoria Levenberg
Guest Speaker(s): Heather Salmon & Donny Regal
Heather Salmon: A lot of um initiates would go to Egypt, so they were practicing resurrection.
Donny Regal: The temple is not a church. The temple is your body.
Viktoria Levenberg: I wish we were taught this in school.
Donny Regal: To really get you out of that detox of what civilization can bring to you.
Viktoria Levenberg: I am so incredibly excited to share the guests of today’s episodes with you, um. I am interviewing Heather and Donny Regal, who are the co-founders of Black Swan Temple. And honestly that temple is pretty much the place where I became known as quote unquote “New Vik.”
I still cannot really put into words exactly what happened there, but the amount of transformation and shifts and life-changing experiences that I had in just the space of five days of spending time with these incredible humans.
I mean, I look back on my time at the Black Swan Temple and I remember waking up in Hawaii, the sun on my face in their garden every day. I remember home-cooked vegetarian breakfast followed by yoga, aerial yoga, and a sound bath, and then venturing out into the miracle of bounty that Maui, Hawaii is—like whether it’s traveling the road to Hana, or going to see the giant turtles at the beach, or simply swimming in waterfalls.
And then coming back into circle, having a beautiful ritual and ceremony with incredible like-minded humans. And by the way, these two can cook. Like, we didn’t necessarily touch on that in the episode, but wow, just their cooking is incredible. They, uh, have a vegetarian cookbook, by the way, which I personally use and have replicated a few recipes.
So hmm, I mean I could just go on and on about how incredible they are, but really I’ll let you find out for yourselves and the amount of wisdom that you’re about to receive.
I do want to share that these are incredible humans, I mean, they have walked this earth with multiple different challenges and changes, and whether it’s career changes or life kind of, you know, shaking them up and making them navigate in a different direction, and they have taken all of these life events and used them as growth opportunities, used them to become better.
And I love the conversations that we had around spirituality and stress, and what you can do to really make your life better, because at the end of the day it’s all in your hands, it is all your responsibility.
So without further ado, enjoy the episode. Maybe go for a little mindful walk or get cosy. If you’re driving, please drive safe and enjoy.
Viktoria Levenberg: Welcome to Resonance, a podcast for ambitious, heart-led humans craving more balance, depth, and aliveness in their lives. I’m your host Vik, health coach, yoga teacher, facilitator, and fellow high achiever learning to live in tune with my nervous system, not against it.
This space is here to remind you that you can have it all—the career, the success, the fulfilment—all aligned with your truth. Through honest conversations, expert insights, and practical tools, we’ll explore how to work with your body, mind, emotions, and spirit, not against them. And the best part—you don’t have to stay stuck in survival mode to get there, because true well-being is not about being perfect, it’s about being in resonance. Let’s dive in.
Viktoria Levenberg: Okay, welcome again Heather and Donny from Black Swan Temple, from Maui, Hawaii, my dream place. Welcome. Thank you so much for joining me at on Resonance.
Heather Salmon: Of course, it’s an honour.
Donny Regal: Maui is a great place, and Maui misses you.
Viktoria Levenberg: I miss Maui. And I miss the two of you probably more than Maui.
Amazing. Well yeah, I’m so grateful that you’ve come on, and uh, before we jump into kind of, you know, the crux of the episode, I just really would love for you to introduce yourselves and just give a little background. You know, who you are, um, what you do, and the magic that you share with the world, if that’s all right.
Heather Salmon: Sure. I’m Heather and this is Donny, my husband. And we have the Black Swan Temple here on Maui, in Maui, Hawaii, the North Shore. We’re a farm and a little eco-retreat centre, and um, we are cultural creatives. We are very creative in a lot of different ways, you know, really in order to bring forth a more just, sustainable, loving presence on the earth for humanity, our brothers and sisters.
We do that through sacred music, sound healing, wellness retreats, spiritual retreats with pilgrimages to Egypt, performances, performances. We’re a farm—we grow, right, lots of um, pineapples in particular, hahaha.
Donny Regal: Pineapples, right, there seems like dozens and dozens and dozens, hundreds, hundreds and hundreds. So um, yeah, we… tropical fruits and flowers.
Heather Salmon: And special to me, I grow blue lotus flowers and make tinctures.
Donny Regal: And roses, and roses.
Viktoria Levenberg: That is incredible.
Heather Salmon: Tell me what we do that is incredible. Together since 2011, um, yeah, we’re married and we, um, love to create together.
Donny Regal: She’s a keeper. You want to say anything else? Living on Maui is certainly a privilege and an honour, of course, and I’ve been here a long time. I have exported Heather out of the Madlands into paradise.
And um, we are very grateful to just have this, have a little place we call home, our farm, that we really, you know, try to get the most value out of the farm. But get the value for ourselves, but we, we love to share and we, we do lots of events. And we are a sound healing team. You know, we have quite the dynamic duo when it comes to creating meditations and things like that and recording them and getting that performance out to the world. It’s one of our favorite things.
We’re also both ministers under the Temple of Isis. So um, I’ve been a life coach and NLP and da da da da. You know, the thing that has been really a turn-on for me lately is studying hermeticism under Thoth and bringing that more into my life and sharing it with others.
And we are leading a trip to Egypt in October, which ironically is our fifth trip, but this one is even more exciting to me than ever because as I study Thoth and I realize the hieroglyphs, um, have a glyph energy from them that I’m really looking forward to re-plugging into. I mean that is like a big—I just can’t wait to get back there.
So it’s, of course, it’s always an honour to be on Maui and, you know, I’m sure once I’m there for a month or so we will want to come home again. You know, since COVID we’ve really studied this whole principle of Zoom, and I think you’re using something even different, but there, you know, this way of being connected online, which is a beautiful thing. You know, thank God for the internet gurus who put this all together so we can, we can just have this conversation right now and, and, you know, really reflect and share and inspire, you know, digitally online, which is a, um, a new world that we’ve all stepped into, certainly the last few years.
Viktoria Levenberg: Yeah, an honour and a privilege, right? And thank you so much for sharing, you know, the vast depth of what you do. And I love the way you put it, Heather—you know, you two are creatives. Like as you speak of everything that you do, it all does come down to that creativity, and you are so adaptable to kind of what the world needs right now. And really, uh, generous, incredibly generous with your offerings and everything that you do to be of service.
And I’m really grateful, Donny, that you mentioned also Egypt. I am—ah—manifesting. It’s gonna be, you know, it’s coming up in the next few years, I can feel it. And I would really love to touch on that a little bit later down the line as well, and have you share, you know, what it means to be a minister or priestess ordained, and kind of under Isis, and about the blue lotus flower, which I know is so magical, Heather, that is so close to your heart. So there’s definitely so much juiciness to explore there as well.
And before we dive in further, I wanted to ask you a question that may be, maybe a little bit tricky, maybe not, but interestingly—what’s the one thing that doesn’t show up on your bio that you’d be comfortable sharing about yourself?
Heather Salmon: Do you wanna start?
Donny Regal: No way.
Heather Salmon: Oh, sure. Um, well, I don’t know that there’s nothing I’m not comfortable with, but I have had a few career iterations. You know, I started, I have a degree in economics, and I started off working in international sports. I worked for the, uh, like the NBA and the world championship of basketball and all these different international sports, and I was an event producer and I really was good at it.
And then from there I kind of left that and thought I was gonna do television production, and I did a little bit of that, and then, but I ended up becoming kind of an actress. Um, I’ve modelled through many different decades of my life, but I became an actress and it got me all of a sudden to LA where I was acting, and that led me into more my spiritual path.
But yeah, I can’t say that there’s anything on my bio.
Viktoria Levenberg: I don’t know, I love that. I mean that’s already something that, you know, people wouldn’t know from a first glance on your website, right? So it’s kind of that just that little, little bit of extra sneak behind the curtains of who you are, and I love that you’re sharing that and that is your path. Because, you know, as you know, Resonance is a podcast for high achievers who are currently in corporate, and they may be struggling with things like stress and work-life balance and their overall health.
And I find that often that is kind of the start of the awakening, so to speak. And so a lot of our listeners may see themselves in your story of kind of your previous career iterations as well.
Heather Salmon: Yeah, all the pivoting.
Viktoria Levenberg: Yes, all the pivoting.
Heather Salmon: Following the yes. Following the bliss.
Viktoria Levenberg: That’s right, yeah. And what about yourself, Donny? Is there anything that’s not immediately findable on your official bio that we would love to know about you?
Donny Regal: You know, I’ve lived on Maui a long time, all of my life. I’ve been married twice before Heather.
Third’s a charm.
Viktoria Levenberg: Third time lucky.
Donny Regal: Yeah. We are exactly nine months apart. When I came into this world, I talked to my higher self and I said, “Where’s my soulmate?” And they said, “We’re working on it right now.” So that being said, it took us a while to really reconnect. But I am—
Heather Salmon: You’re a mead maker, Eddie.
It’s not on your bio.
Viktoria Levenberg: Haha.
Donny Regal: That is true. I don’t know, that is true. I love making mead, honey wine. Honey wine only because, um, it just, it, you know, it stores its value. It really has incredible negotiating trade value. You know, I can trade it for pretty much anything.
Viktoria Levenberg: I love that.
Viktoria Levenberg: Donny’s stockpiling it just in case.
Donny Regal: I don’t have a highly valuable, I don’t have a bleep system. Yeah, well, if the world ever goes to hell, I’m covered. I’m gonna have like a big stockpile. They used to drink mead instead of water because it was healthier.
Viktoria Levenberg: Yeah, well, there you go. I mean, who needs little coins of silver if you can actually ingest mead, right? Hahaha.
Donny Regal: Right, yeah. I mean, you know, it is.
Viktoria Levenberg: And for actually can you explain what mead is for any listeners who may not be sure what that is as well? ‘Cause it’d be great to give the context.
Donny Regal: Well, you know, we harvest a lot of things, a lot of fruit juices or coconut water, things like that. If you take any kind of juice, including water or tea, add honey to it and a little bit of yeast, it ferments, you get wine, you get, yes, some sense of alcohol that pops out of there. And um, you know it’s like, it’s a live entity. I mean, once you start it, it turns alive, it starts to grow, and the yeast eats the sugar and ends up dying in the process, but it leaves the alcohol.
Yeah, you know, the older I get the more, I mean, I have a different level of appreciation for alcohol, ‘cause I never really drank when I was younger, it was never my thing. But you know what, every once in a while a cup of mead goes a long way for my happiness, and um, you know, it’s a, it’s a fun product of the land here.
Viktoria Levenberg: Yeah. Mmm-hmm.
Donny Regal: It preserves, yeah, preserves. I mean, ‘cause you know what, that fruit juice in the refrigerator will not last forever.
Viktoria Levenberg: Mmm-hmm, exactly. And also like if you are going to create and consume alcohol, like you may as well know exactly what’s in there, right?
Donny Regal: Um, it’s medicinal, you know, because I learned to utilize raw honey. And the honey actually, some people use it for, like, who are diabetic, the mead brings the sugar in. You know, it’s part of the buzz of the land, you know, so we just, hahaha.
And being able to store it somewhere, you know, my fantasy is to have a wine cellar that’s got multiple years. I’m only on a couple years now, but well, dozens of years so I can pull a bottle from 2022 or, you know, 2029 and go, “This is a good year.”
Viktoria Levenberg: So you can hahaha yes, design your own vintage labels, you know, but in 2050 when the whole world just turns to hahaha.
Donny Regal: Yeah, you know.
Viktoria Levenberg: Exactly, exactly. Thank you so much for sharing that. I mean I love, you know, the variety and that's, that's what I love. This is why I love asking that question because you never know, you know, what's kind of going to come up and what kinda little, uh, secret stashes people have got in their ha ha ha kitchen cupboards.
Um, and so I would really love to hear from you about the path of the Mystical Alchemist. Because as we kind of look at everything that you do, you know, Black Swan Temple, and you've got your mystical alchemy school, so much of it comes down to this. And so would you be able to share, first of all, you know, what the mystical alchemist is, and then also just a little bit more around how you are of service in this space?
Donny Regal: I can start. I mean that's it, that's an easy question to ask. The mystical alchemist is, you know, we are all, we have a lot of distraction in life, a lot of what, what, you know, it's today especially with the media and everything and what our parents tell us, what the school tells us. The mystical alchemist is very much more aligned with the divine principle of energy in the, in the, in the mind, that what we believe is what we receive, that what we think is what we create.
And we are especially attuned to paying attention to what our story is and what our energetic frequency is. And the more that we're aware of that, the more we can start to dictate, or get back in the driver's seat and really be the driver of our own life. You know a lot of us, a lot of people I'll say, I won't say us, but a lot of people are incredibly distracted by many things. They've been told a bunch of stuff that's not necessarily true, you know.
But if you believe you can, you're right. If you believe you can't, you're right, as Henry Ford would say. But it's important, it's, it's crucial to really recognize that we are all divine mind. And as we own that, participate in that, and really start to become aware that what's happening in here is what's creating all this.
We are in—I mean, it's—we're aligned with the seven hermetic principles. You know, it all is mind. You know that there's male, there's male and female in everything in the world. It's all energy. It's something that I think that the world is awakening to at this moment more than ever.
Viktoria Levenberg: Yeah. Can I ask you—
Heather Salmon: Yes, of course.
Viktoria Levenberg: Like for—
Heather Salmon: So yeah, it's kind of a combination, everything that Donny said. And kind of foundationally, what you'll find in our mystery school is—you know, I, I am a, I, I in the early 2, I went to seminary school and I'm an ordained scene minister. And then I became a priestess of the temple of ISIS.
And it's really a beautiful combination of the paths of Yeshua and Mary Magdalene and um, the path of the Essenes, which is really based on hermeticism, based on the sevenfold path of peace—creating peace with the mind, peace with the body, peace with your relationships, with your service, with your relationship with the earth and the cosmos. And it's really a dynamic practice.
And so there's a lot of, yeah, some this mind or directing your mind to understand how you can, from your mind, direct your energy, how you can do cleansing and purifying and your senior in your space, so you can kind of activate your energy field and learn how to take care of it. As well as develop your intuition, and work with the moon cycles and solar cycles, connecting more deeply with the greater cycles that we are existing within.
Viktoria Levenberg: Yes, yeah. I love that you added that because I wish we were taught this in school. You know, like, I mean, I don't know about you, but I don't use like socata as much as I use the cycles of the moon as an example to understand in my day to day life. And so, for people who may not be familiar with the Essenes and the 7 principles of hermeticism, if I'm pronouncing it correctly as well—I hope, okay—um, can you share a little bit more? Because I think that's so important to spread this information because there is, to Donny's earlier point, so much misinformation out there. So please let us hear it from the experts.
Heather Salmon: Sure, I mean, this goes way back to Thoth. So um, Thoth or Da Hoody was an Atlantian priest. So before, before the great flood really, there was Atlantis and Atlantis was, um, over there in the Atlantic side hahaha yeah, off the coast of Africa and England and all that area, um, was Atlantis. And Atlantis was said to be inhabited by these basically higher dimensional beings.
Usually they're more mature spiritually than us.
Way more.
Viktoria Levenberg: That's not hard to imagine.
Heather Salmon: Yeah, they were doing like way beyond what we're—we're like in kid.
Viktoria Levenberg: So you mean they weren't like scrolling their TikToks and like binge watching Netflix all the time?
Heather Salmon: Probably not, no. No. So, so Thoth was the Atlantian priest king, so when it fell, he went to Egypt and basically started Egypt with the pyramids.
Donny Regal: Kim.
Heather Salmon: Mhm, Kim, okay. So at that time too there were survivors from the Atlantis, Atlantean times, from the flood, from the great flood. There were some survivors, so there, you know, there were other beings walking the earth. And some of them were the ancient Essenes. And this Essene sect, which they say that Jesus and, and Mary and John the Baptist were all Essenes, they were really very devoted in their spiritual practice and their ways of being.
So, and you know, Israel, that whole area is very close to Egypt. And where the, so they, a lot of initiates would go to Egypt. They go to the Great Pyramid and, um, initiation and receive initiations. And, um, to Hoody or Thoth said, if you read the, um, the books about the 7 hermetic principles, the pyramids are actually created to be like an Ascension chamber, resurrection chamber. So they were practicing resurrection, how to separate from the body and resurrect.
So the Essenes really were studying this as well. So part of the resurrection mysteries—it's not just like a miracle that Jesus resurrected, but they say that he actually had this whole community—
Viktoria Levenberg: Mhm.
Heather Salmon: That were in on the practices and supporting this whole process.
Viktoria Levenberg: Yes, yeah. Which makes so much sense, right? Like it doesn't just happen like that.
Heather Salmon: "Oh my God Mary Magdalene, what are you doing here?" Like they were, they were practicing, they were practicing. This was a process that had been handed down from Thoth all through the generations. You know, so it's a yeah, that, that this was just a miracle that one, only one person was involved in is just—I don't believe that to be true.
So then, so then he also started different mystery schools, and called, all called Temples of Light within Egypt. And each of these temples had a specific kind of area of expertise. And also Thoth is also associated with the Mayans and the Mayan temples and the pyramids in general.
Viktoria Levenberg: The pyramids, yeah.
Heather Salmon: And the Maya and the rainbow serpent. The thing is also Thoth and the Essenes also were traveling around the world. So I hope that makes that a little—yeah.
Viktoria Levenberg: It definitely does. And for, um, the kind of average listener, I know we could spend hours and probably like study lifetimes' worth of principles here. But would you be able to share what at a top line level those seven hermetic principles are? Because I think they're still so resonant even in our day to day life. As you say, like that's really your purpose, your passion, spreading peace in the world. Um, and if you need to look them up, that's totally okay as well.
Heather Salmon: Hahaha. I'll start with everything is mind. Mentalism.
Donny Regal: Mentalism, yeah, okay.
Heather Salmon: Everything is mind, and that every aspect has a female and male principle in it.
Viktoria Levenberg: Mhm.
Heather Salmon: Everything is vibration. Everything is a frequency.
Alright, so mentalism is the first one, everything is mind.
Mhm. The principle of correspondence is the second one, which means as above, so below. As within, so without.
Viktoria Levenberg: Okay.
Heather Salmon: Reminds us that harmony begins as within. If you can create peace within, then you can manifest it without. And you're kind of sharing that vibration, peace. So people become attuned to that vibration that you are carrying.
And then vibration is, everything's a frequency. The next one, everything's a frequency. Words, actions, emotions all carry resonance.
Donny Regal: Cause and effect. Everything has a cause and everything has an effect, everything.
Heather Salmon: And then polarity and rhythm. They reveal that all life is a dance of opposites, of cycles. The conscious choice is to find the middle path, to integrate the shadow and light, to honor the ebb and flow, and to align with the divine timing rather than forcing outcomes.
And then, Donny talked about the principle of cause and effect.
Viktoria Levenberg: Mhm.
Donny Regal: Everything's connected, yeah. Nothing's random. Every choice sets into motion a ripple that returns to us. And I think an important part of that that people fail is that we are, we are all connected.
Heather Salmon: Mhm.
Viktoria Levenberg: Yes, thank you for naming that.
Donny Regal: And to think that, you know, I'm doing better than this person and—we're all, we're all one.
Donny Regal: Yeah. Everything is God. Every single thing. And it's all connected. So to think I'm doing better, I got this and you don't, it's, it's, it's such an ego trip and it's right.
Well it just creates separation. And the separation is what causes suffering. And then as you can see, there's people that are suffering on the planet, unfortunately.
Hmm, you know, in ancient times, especially before the fall, people were not suffering. People lived in harmony. It was all a, of love and divine frequency. Unfortunately, um, you know, people got greedy, and then that what created the fall of Atlantis, you know.
Heather Salmon: Yeah, and the last, last principle is that of gender, which reminds us that within us lives a balance of receptivity and action, of intuition and will. The masculine and the feminine lives, yes, within each of us.
Viktoria Levenberg: The Yin and the Yang.
Alright. And I mean thank you so much for sharing that because it all resonates so strongly. Like it all rings so true. And if we all lived by these principles, as you say Donny, then likely kind of we wouldn't be experiencing a lot of what we are today.
Although going back to duality, maybe that's just part of kind of, you know, our growth journey.
Donny Regal: I think, you know, humans are here to feel. And, you know, to really understand goodness, you have to understand badness. So you have to experience badness to get the goodness out of it.
In order to feel joy, you gotta experience pain. It's just part of the human experience.
The point of the hermeticism and the thinking is to go beyond that. Is to recognize that that's what it is. To recognize that your greatest challenges are your greatest opportunities. You know, a lot of people are afraid to, afraid to make a mistake, or afraid to have the challenge, or don't want to acknowledge their shadow. Their shadow is their gift.
You know it's like when life's really easy, there's not a lot of spiritual growth going on. But when the shit hits the fan, that's when people, you know, people either pull, they either wake up and smell the coffee and really get their—become the Phoenix rising, or they can play the victim. And they do that for however long, that's, yes, you know, I mean, which some people get a lifetime of that.
But the point is, is embrace our troubles as we embrace our pains. We embrace our challenges. The other side of that is the light, you know. And that's what we're here, we're here to learn, we're here to grow. You know. In hermeticism, the point is, is to really own that truth and really come and really recognize the frequency of your mind and let that become a navigating force in your life, as opposed to feeling, you know, a lot of people use the outside world to judge what's happening on the inside world.
And it's the hermit, you know, the mystical alchemist recognizes it's the exact opposite of that, yeah. What's happening in here is creating all of this. This in all of this is really an illusion. So, you know, but enjoy the game. Have fun with it. Play with it. And yet don't be in denial or don't, you know, avoid the, the pitfalls. I mean, sure, we want to avoid the pitfalls in the sense that we can navigate around them. But as they do happen, which is part of the element of life, to embrace it and go hey, there's an opportunity here. Cause in every, every piece of coal that gets, you feel like gets thrown at you, there's a diamond in there if you polish it up.
Viktoria Levenberg: Yes, that is so wise Donny. And in fact as you are sharing that, you know, I had just like a throwback moment to where I was basically in your space, in, in your temple. We, I think it was our first or second night at the Black Swan Temple Mystical Alchemy Retreat, and you shared a similar analogy that like I still—it's still with me to this day. And you said, you know, we can take the shit that happens to us and you either wallow in it and just be miserable, or you use it and turn it into compost, right? Hahaha.
Donny Regal: That's what we're supposed to do hahaha, yeah, something beautiful out of it.
Exactly. Is to, is to learn that lesson. And you know, I pray that we all are awakening to that divine truth and we are all recognizing that we're, we're all in this together. You know, it's not about being more or less or above or below, you know, it's as above so below. I mean so it's all connected.
And as we own that and recognize that, you know, teamwork makes the dream work. And to embody our fellow souls out there and support them and nurture and, you know, we can all make this world a better place.
Viktoria Levenberg: That is so well said. And you touched on that earlier as well as that, you know, whatever is happening to me or to you, it's so intertwined, that also your success is my success, right? Like, I feel that when people get into their ego brain and they kind of get into their shadows, and they see someone thriving and doing really well, but the kind of little ego voice goes, "That's nice for her, but me, me, me, me, me."
And it's like, well, actually, can we celebrate that?
Donny Regal: Yeah, well, you know, that's what's keeping you from getting your own. If you're gonna sit there and belittle great people, who are you? When you see people that are successful, you want to and go, yes for them, because that's the consciousness you need to be holding to get to that place. And if you sit there and go, "Those people don't deserve that," well, you know, of course, all you're doing is holding the frequency that keeps you exactly where you are.
Viktoria Levenberg: Exactly, and you're just recreating more of the same, right? It's that continuous never-ending spiral.
Donny Regal: Oh yeah
Viktoria Levenberg: So tell me. I would love to hear your perspective on this. I have a perspective which I'll share later, but I'd love to hear your take. How, for people who are, you know, kind of—I'm gonna say like in our 3D muggle reality—maybe not as spiritually connected, they're just in the grind, shrimping away in front of their computers for eight hours a day, clock in clock out, exhausted, overwhelmed, stressed, really struggling—like, how do we start to develop that snapping out of almost this hallucination, I guess, if that's for lack of better words. What is your perspective?
Heather Salmon: Yeah, for me, you know, yoga and breathwork and sound healing, and in particular, I mean just having an awareness, number one, that you're overwhelmed, struggling, and want something different.
Viktoria Levenberg: It’s a good starting point, right?
Heather Salmon: And then from there, you know, taking little baby steps, finding your path, and finding your community, and finding your breath, you know. When we hold so much on a cellular level in our bodies, and it wasn't till I came to sound healing, a shamanic form of sound rebirthing really, that things really shifted for me. Cause you can do so much with your voice, your sound, to begin to discover what you're holding, where you're holding in your pain body, and to acknowledge it and release it.
Transformation has to happen through the witnessing and kind of re-experiencing of the pain so we can release it and then anchor a new program.
Viktoria Levenberg: Yes.
Heather Salmon: And it can, I know, feel so overwhelming when you're in the depths of despair or depression, or you know, like yeah, you feel like giving up to kind of walk that path. But you know, there's things that you can do. I mean, we're online at least once a month for free, you know, finding your teachers, taking steps. There's more and more courses out there.
I love our sound healing course.
Breath, movement, sound, intention.
Viktoria Levenberg: Is that the Chakra one?
Heather Salmon: Yes.
Viktoria Levenberg: Oh yeah, I participated, I can vouch, it's incredible. Hahaha.
Heather Salmon: Yeah, life-changing. So that's something, you know, people can do on their own and to start to kind of get sovereignty, and realize, take ownership back in what is going on, get back in the driver's seat as Donny would say.
Viktoria Levenberg: Yes, yes.
Yes, and I love that you kind of came to that conclusion, because I kind of planted the seed. But before I share my seed, actually Donny, I would also love to hear if you had anything to add or maybe a different perspective from your side.
Donny Regal: I mean, I would say that we are all divine beings. And the first thing we need to really, really be aware of is what are we feeding into our head. Like, is our cell phone running our life? Is television running our life? Do we have some friends that are really negative naysayers that are telling you "you can't" all the time? Get rid of all that.
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Donny Regal: You know, yeah, wean yourself off of it, or if you're gonna do it, do it in small doses. Because you are what you put into your life. What you put into your life is what you get out of your life. So yeah, first and foremost, find those things that are not serving you, whether it's food, whether it's relationships, whether it's work.
Find some way to contribute and start to, you know, give yourself positive affirmations, whether it's you're taking better care of yourself. It could be as something as simple as taking a bath, you know, or finding some water time or finding some nature time, to really get you out of that detox of what civilization can bring to you. You know, whether it be the EMFs or the—there's so much stuff out there that, yeah, completely useless in our lives, but it has some little, little value.
I mean, obviously it's nice to have electricity, you know, but we don't want to be around cell towers all the… either. We gotta, yeah. It's nice to have Wi-Fi, but we don't necessarily want to be inundated with 4,000 signals around, you know. Get out of here, get a—, go hug a tree, get, you know,
Viktoria Levenberg: Get a little EMF blocker. Hahaha.
Donny Regal: Stop and run, put your feet on the ground so you get grounded, you know. Mm hmm. You know, drink more water. Hahaha. Yes. You know, I'm not saying you need to—I mean, you gotta just be aware what you put in your mouth, you gotta be aware what you put in your ears, you gotta be aware what you put into your eyes, and cleaning it up. Because what comes in is what you're gonna get out of your life. You know, what's going on in here is what… so if you're feeding yourself a lot of negative stuff, it is not gonna go well. You're gonna, you're gonna suffer until you decide not to suffer anymore.
This is a rough way to go, you know. I mean, hopefully you'll learn sooner than later, but some people are really doing a lot of suffering.
Viktoria Levenberg: Yes, yes.
Donny Regal: And that's sad. I mean, they're on their own paths, and like I said, there's no worse or better. You know, but if we're trying to become more in the driver's seat, we need to clean up our input, you know, so we can output what we're doing. And yeah, you know, a lot of people are very distracted by their Instagram, Facebook, NBC, ABC, CBS, all that stuff. You know, could be—you know, how much Netflix? How much are—what are you putting in?
Viktoria Levenberg: Mm hmm. And yeah, and you hit that golden spot there when you said, you can, until you decide not to suffer. And it's similar to what you said earlier, Heather, around well, first of all, you need to have conscious awareness that things aren't that well and maybe they could be a little bit better. Because that is, in my humble opinion, that first step to transformation.
I genuinely believe that unless we have awareness, we cannot move forward, right? There needs to be some level of consciousness of what the present is. And unfortunately, a lot of the things that you spoke about earlier are avoidance mechanisms. You said it yourself, right? We're just using all of this to block everything out so that we don't see the truth of the reality.
And from awareness then comes choice, right? Then the world opens up. Like, yes, you could go deep down the path of kind of sound baths and courses and yoga, which is so incredible—I believe it's like a coming home, to be honest. And if that feels like a little bit much, then to your point, like, just have a bath or like just five minutes of alone time by yourself without any devices.
Donny Regal: You know, one of the major spiritual phrases out in the world is "to know thyself." You know that, you know, it's been… yeah. And you know, so knowing myself is recognizing when something's not working. You know, really paying attention to yourself, and you recognize that that's not good for me anymore, you know.
Viktoria Levenberg: Yes.
Donny Regal: That really works. I like that. That—I'm gonna do more of that.
Viktoria Levenberg: Mm hmm, more of that. Less of this, right?
Donny Regal: And yeah, and life will improve, you know. It's inevitable. It's not rocket science. It's super simple.
Viktoria Levenberg: Yes. And on that note, I'm gonna—it's not quite a tangent, but it is a big topic that I just want to address. Because you know, we are all spiritual beings, you've addressed it multiple times, you know we are divine. And we, the three of us, are very much on the same wavelength. And I'm also conscious that some people who may not be as exposed to our worlds are still very much fed what they're taught, whether from social media or the news or what they were taught at school.
And they might have a real constriction to some of the things that we speak about. And so I just wanted to really address kind of God and our divinity and the higher self. Because when we say the word God, like for me even two or three years ago, I used to like clench up inside. Like, that's how badly my upbringing and the religion that I kind of started in, in my childhood, had tainted that word for me, until I actually realized that:
A. Spirituality can mean a million different things to a million different people.
B. When we say the word God, we don't mean some like bearded white dude sitting on a cloud looking down on us telling what to do. So, hahaha, can I just have both of you address what is, like a really big subject, but I feel like I would just love to hear your expression and perception of the divine in your own words?
Donny Regal: I'll start and say that, you know, your temple—the temple is not a church. The temple is your body. Uh huh. And in the real, that sense of God is you. You are a divine being. It's not outside of you. You don't ask God for forgiveness. You ask yourself for forgiveness. It's what's a part of the Ho'oponopono practice, is really learning to forgive yourself. That's a big part of knowing myself and getting out of your own way, is to forgive yourself.
Uh huh. God is that divine spark within all of us. Every single one of us.
Heather Salmon: Beautiful.
Yeah. Definitely, God is within all of us. We all have this, that spark of divinity. In the Egyptian mysticism, they call God or the Creator the Neter. And all of the gods or goddesses, they're not really gods and goddesses, they're Neteru. They each hold a divine aspect, expression of the divine, which is like a divine principle.
So like, Hathor holds the principle of joy. Joy is a divine principle. And in other teachings they'll tell you that joy is more than an emotion, it's a state of being, and it's a state of being of spirit. And so when we are in spirit, we are inspired, we are in joy. So we can look at all the different aspects. Like Maat—Maat holds the divine principle of truth and balance and justice.
Viktoria Levenberg: Mm hmm.
Heather Salmon: Harmony. So the divine is me, and all these beautiful principles and aspects that kind of can shape our, help us, guide us towards creating more beauty and balance and harmony.
Viktoria Levenberg: Yeah, yes. Yeah, that's so beautifully said. And I really appreciate how eloquently you both express that, because I know it can sometimes feel like quite an intimate topic to express, kind of our connection to the divine. But yeah, I love the way you both have put it.
And I also want to say that every way is right, because we all live in our reality, right? Like, as within so without. So whatever—whether it's through nature, whether it's through our connection to ourselves, or something greater than ourselves—like there is no right or wrong, there just is, in a way.
And you spoke to the body earlier, and I think Heather, you mentioned the pain body as well, and I was wondering if you would be able to just briefly touch on the different layers of the body, which of course as a yoga teacher you know, we're kind of often taught and experience in our trainings and in our practices. But most everyday humans think that we just have this physical sheath, this body, and this is it, when that's not necessarily the case. So would you be able to kind of share with us your perception of the other layers of our bodies?
Heather Salmon: Yeah well, in Egyptian mysticism we have the… like the physical body, we have the Ba, which is um, the soul, and then the Ka, which is the spirit round, which is like a mirror. The Ba kind of goes with the body, and the Ka is more multidimensional into… that travels and goes into, um, yeah the Ka. But it can’t carry, sure.
So they all, they all work together, these different layers of bodies. And then you can also look at it as the mental body, the physical body, the emotional body, spiritual body — on layers of our being.
Viktoria Levenberg: Yes, exactly. And I think that’s, um, what I wanted to really highlight here, is that — to expand people’s consciousness and awareness of the different layers of themselves. Because we so often, um, are… constrict ourselves. I guess not we, but like, you know, people in general constrict themselves based on just what they can see.
Yet when we dive deeper, there’s so much more that may not necessarily be seen with the naked eye, but it’s felt, it’s still there, where it’s energetic. And, um, for example, like illnesses manifesting as blocked energy channels, or… or chronic pain. That’s — that’s a big one, right.
So I don’t know if you, you had anything to share about that? I saw you nodding, Donny.
Donny Regal: Yeah. I… you know, our body is our temple. And, very difficult to be out in the world — you know, we need our body to cooperate, you know. It’s a crucial part of us.
And whether it’s your emotional body, your physical body, your spiritual body — the more that we can get in line to know thy… know thyself. But when we come [to the] physical body, you know, it’s… it’s our, it’s our temple.
So it’s really, really important to take care of it, because it’s hard to have fun in life if you’re in a lot of pain, you know, or you’re sick. Yeah. So — physical body as our greatest temple that, you know, to honour and support.
Whether… and you can do that through yoga, you can do it through diet, you can do hopefully through nature, you hopefully… you do it in every way possible, you know. So that your temple is your… it’s your tool to move through this thing called the planet earth, and interact energetically with all these different beings and frequencies that are out there.
Part of our existence is utilizing this body during our short little lifetime here, and really taking advantage of it and nurturing it.
Heather Salmon: Yes, yeah. That’s… and when you become more aware of the chakras too, to look at them through, look at them through — and I, I love, you know, the Chakra system because it also connects, you know, not only our physical bodies, but it connects — like the root Chakra connects you to the earth.
The earth, like water, our blood. Air, our breath. Fire, our spirit. We’re not separate from the elements, from what’s around us. And so we love doing like the seven directions invocation and, and, and connecting that with the, the Chakra system.
Because when we begin to understand, like, okay, like let’s take the solar plexus.
Viktoria Levenberg: Mm hmm.
Heather Salmon: Um, element of fire and like our solar sun, and the solar energy being. It teaches us a lot about how it has… relate to our mental bodies, and can teach us a lot about, you know, how does the sun energize the earth, and energize seeds within the earth that have been planted, and helps them to grow up towards the sun.
While our mental body — it’s the way we use, it’s like our sun, of focusing our energy on those seeds of our intentions, yeah.
So I feel like when you kind of understand, you begin to explore and see, oh wow, it’s not separate. I’m not separate from it.
Viktoria Levenberg: Mm hmm.
Heather Salmon: With the emotional body, with water — you know water can take on lots of forms: hot, cold, ice, river, whatever. Well, can take on a lot of forms: hot, cold, anger, sorrow, joy, bliss, excess. It’s just like the water, the lessons of the water.
Yes, and how do we, you know, balance them, or use it for creativity. And like nothing, none of them are wrong or… or bad, but are we stuck in some of them.
Viktoria Levenberg: Uh huh, yes. Ha ha, need a… need a bit of unblocking there, a bit of a vocal activation, perhaps with your online course, ha ha.
Heather Salmon: So I think it can be very enriching when we are kind of diving into these explorations. And know that yeah, we’re not just here by ourselves, separate, figured out. That we have, you know, the ancients said, nature was our bible.
Do some gardening. Get your hands in the… and everything that you’ll learn about cultivating and growing something is the same thing you’ll learn — you need to grow anything you wanna grow in your life.
Viktoria Levenberg: Yes, and take care of yourself as well, right. Like, if the rose doesn’t bloom, you don’t blame the rose, you blame the environment. Right.
And, and so if we kind of take it to our listeners, who are, again, yeah, likely have a lot going on, feeling quite burnt out — what’s one myth about stress that you wish that people would simply unlearn? Like, what do you hear out there that you, you kind of… you hear it, and it just makes you go hmm, I have a different perspective.
Donny Regal: Well, I’ll say one thing right at the top of my head, is: stress is a choice. You know, there’s a lot of things that we do get — we get stressed out by things. But, you know, we choose to be, to… to, to say, “Okay, you’re stressing me out.” You know. That’s, that’s a choice we’re making.
Viktoria Levenberg: Mm hmm.
Donny Regal: You had, you might talked about the environment — we have legs. If that environment is not working for you, then get your legs moving and get out of that environment. You know, it’s a choice. You can sit there and suffer, or you can — you know, suffering is a choice.
I mean sure, if you cut your hand, it’s gonna hurt, you know. But it’s not gonna necessary… I mean, we are all here making choices every second of our life, and it’s important to take that recognition that we’re choosing to suffer, or we’re choosing stress, or we’re choosing… you know.
We were — life is a choice, it’s a continuous choice.
Viktoria Levenberg: Hmm. Beautifully said.
Heather Salmon: Oh yeah. Very well said.
And that just reminded me of — Donny and I used to teach children about, um, emotions. Emotions. Where are you in the thermometer right now? And if you want to be somewhere else in the thermometer, what can you do?
So we used to ask the kids, “What can you do?” Like, you know, “What pill should I take?
Viktoria Levenberg: Let me quickly drink a glass of wine and that’ll help, right?”
Heather Salmon: But for the kids, we… we brainstorm. And they’re like, “I could go for a walk. I could ride my bike. I could go to the beach. I could talk to someone. I could—”
Viktoria Levenberg: Yes.
Viktoria Levenberg: Simple little things.
Heather Salmon: Well, such great tools really, so simple. “I could ask for a hug.” You know.
Viktoria Levenberg: Yeah. We tend to get in our head so much about that, right. And you, you pointed out something that’s so important. And Donny, I feel like you wanted to add something as well.
Donny Regal: Well I think there’s a lot of people that have become very masterful in the blame-shame game.
Viktoria Levenberg: Mm hmm.
Donny Regal: I call them the complainers, the whiners. That it’s everybody else’s fault but theirs.
Viktoria Levenberg: Uh huh.
Donny Regal: And reality is, is you are… it’s, you are the navigator of the ship. You can give it away, you can claim this, you can’t do it, but you… you can do anything you put your mind to. So, you know, being a victim is a choice, you know. Suffering is a choice.
If things aren’t working and you don’t like what’s going on, then, you know, either move or change or shift or do something. But don’t sit there and go, “Oh, it’s all their fault.” You know.
Viktoria Levenberg: Mm hmm.
Donny Regal: It’s your fault for sitting there and, and, and accepting that. You mean, you have — it’s a choice. So you can always choose differently. You can always shift, or navigate, or, you know, move your energy towards something that’s more supportive.
Viktoria Levenberg: Yes. And I will add to that as well — anyone who’s listening to you say this right now, and immediately I know in their head they’re gonna go, “Oh yeah, but blah blah blah, reason reason reason.” That’s a mirror. So I just wanted to name that.
Because chances are someone’s listening right now, and they’ve already come up with like three excuses as to why they can’t do anything about it. And that’s just — I’m just holding up a mirror, uh, on, you know, what, what are those reasons. Are they really reasons to stay stuck? And is it really impossible?
Because I think that’s where people tend to choose to stay, and justify it to themselves.
Donny Regal: Coach, you can do anything if you’re willing to do the work. Now yeah, lazy is an option. And I’m not saying that you — that’s the worst thing you can do. But you gotta recognize that if you’re being lazy, you’re being lazy. It’s not gonna… you’re not gonna change your environment if you sit there the whole time.
You know, you’re gonna have to get up and move your butt into a different place, you know, metaphorically. So it’s really, really important to recognize that you are the creator here. To not, to not give away your power.
Viktoria Levenberg: Yes. Yes. And to stay in our power. I would love to hear from you, as we kind of come to, uh, almost the conclusion of our time together. First of all, from each of you — you know, when life does get a little bit much, you know, we all go through those seasons, things happen, again we’re on this planet for a reason, to learn all these lessons.
So how do you personally recentre and reconnect with yourself when those times come up?
Heather Salmon: Well, I recentre and reconnect with myself daily. I mean it’s a, it’s a practice that I…
Viktoria Levenberg: Mmm hmm.
Heather Salmon: You know, I meditate. I — outside we’ve got two copper pyramids, which are awesome. We have a swimming pool.
Viktoria Levenberg: You got two now?
Heather Salmon: Ha — one’s for the fifth dimension, and the other’s like the Giza Pyramid. Um, so that few minutes in that is awesome.
But, you know, always taking time for each day to do a little — a swim, a little self-care, doing that regularly, you know. It’s just part of the process.
And yes, things… it also allows, affords me the opportunity to do kind of my, my self check-in. Because sometimes things are stressful. And we had the fires here, we had both of our mothers die within like a year of each other. We’ve had a lot of stuff happen.
Um, but, you know, taking that time to, to check in and just be with it. Self-empathy is one of the practices that we love to share with people, which is: you’re checking in, can you be there for yourself?
Yes, so this is what I’m feeling: I’m feeling overwhelmed, I’m feeling angry, I’m feeling scared, I’m feeling whatever — and just name it, acknowledge it, and be with it. Yes.
Whether you just want to do some movement, or sound, or sigh, just that awareness and acknowledging. And then, you know, luckily I have an amazing partner who’s very, um, emotionally intelligent, so —
Donny Regal: Hahaha.
Heather Salmon: Before I even am willing to, ready to talk about it. But…
Viktoria Levenberg: Mm hmm. Yeah, thank you for sharing that.
And as you were sharing your daily practice, two things immediately came to mind. One was that, you know, that daily practice — you showing up, whether it’s on your mat, or in your pyramid, or wherever else that may be. You know, it kind of fills up your cup, so that when then things do happen, life does happen — whether it’s the fires or a loved one passing away — you already have extra reserves of that self-care, that self-love, and it helps you navigate through those times better.
Like, rather than just treating your practice as a band-aid when things are tough, right. It’s like, no — whether it’s a good day or not-so-good day, like, I show up every day. And that helps me build resilience.
Um, and the second thing that you mentioned is also taking that time. You know, many of the listeners here are probably under the illusion that they are time-poor. And just the one thing I really wanted to say is that, if we think we don’t have the time to do a practice, then we definitely don’t have the time not to do it.
Donny Regal: Well said.
Viktoria Levenberg: What about you, Donny? What are your practices?
Donny Regal: I think the first and foremost, I believe that it’s important for me to turn my frustrations into fascinations. The world is not here to poop on you. The world — that’s not the purpose of the world. The world is here to make us feel.
So when, you know, I mean, something simple is like a tire that blows out. You’re like, “Oh shit, this is not fun. It is what it is.” And you know — this too shall pass, we’re gonna fix it. It’s part of the feeling thing.
And to not beat myself up over it. I don’t need to beat myself up over anything. There’s… everything is happening for a reason. And to look, look for, you know — look, there’s always gonna be something positive that comes out of it.
So instead of sitting there going, “Oh God,” you know, just go, “Okay, I get it. This is definitely not what I wanted. This is not what I expected. This is not what I planned. This is what it is. And I’m gonna get through this, I’m gonna make it work. You know, I’m gonna find, find, find the solution.”
And as I do that, the more that I do that, the more I find that there’s less things that bother me. You know, because like, you know, it’s not a matter of being frustrated about it. It’s just going, “Wow.” You know, to turn my frustrations into fascinations. Just like, wow.
My… you know, I did, I do remember it was a little low. I should have probably, I should have [checked] myself. But I… so it’s a reminder that when I saw it, I could have put some air in the tire. Okay, I didn’t. And you know, this is, this is the payment I get. And I get it, you know. It’s, it’s not the end of the world. Thank God I’m still alive, and I’m, you know, and I… I will get, I will get through this.
And you know, all of us are going through experiences every day that we’re like, “Oh shoot, that’s not what we want.” I believe that we always get what we need, not what we want. Yeah.
And there are times, like when the tire goes out or something, that you’re like, “Oh man.” And something — there’s, there’s really… the Angels are navigating things in ways that are beyond what we consciously recognize.
A lot of… definitely look for the, the diamond in, in, in… in the, in the coal. You know, there’s a diamond. There’s an opportunity in everything.
Viktoria Levenberg: And often some humour as well.
Donny Regal: Oh, plenty of humour, yeah.
Viktoria Levenberg: Amazing, thank you both so much for sharing this. I think that was so valuable. And, um, the signature question that I’ve been asking every guest that’s come on to the podcast, and I’d love to, um, ask each of you as well is: what’s one thing from today’s conversation that you hope will resonate with the listeners for a long time from today?
Heather Salmon: Good. Um, yeah, I… I would love for people to leave here with a sense of hope and a sense of inspiration, really. Um, I’ve been through a lot of ups and downs and things, and when I found my spiritual path it made me much more resilient and much more fulfilled and happier. And it brought me to my true self and to my true partner. So, um, I would hope that yeah, through this self-discovery, self-care, willing to, to have a devotional path… start. Never too late to start. And yes.
Viktoria Levenberg: Hmm. It’s very powerful, yeah. Thank you for sharing that. And what about you, Donny?
Donny Regal: We always get what we expect in life. And that the secret to having it all is to know that you already have it, you know. Oh yes. It’s really, really important to, to own your power and, and recognize that we’re here to make a difference. We’re all here to make a difference.
And we don’t do it by being distracted. You don’t do it by blaming, shaming. We do it by really owning who we are, finding a purpose, and, and get… and get, get activated. You know, we are — like I said, we are much more powerful than we give ourselves credit for.
So, to really find some practices, whether it be breath, yoga, good diet, I don’t know, you know, running, jogging. I mean, you know, there’s a million things we can do that improves our being, our sense of wellness, our sense of confidence. And to really nurture ourselves, to really find that, find the things that really bring life, you know. That bring life into our being and keep supporting them.
Viktoria Levenberg: Hmm, yeah. Thank you both so much. I mean, I personally feel lit up by this conversation today. And if that’s the effect that you continue to have on me, and you know, after working with you for a few years now, I can only imagine how inspired someone’s going to feel after they hear your wisdom and your guidance from today’s episodes.
And so I would just love to ask, you know, where can people find you if they wanna work with you? I’ll obviously link all the details in the episode show notes, but it would be great to hear just, uh, yeah — how can people find you?
Heather Salmon: BlackSwanTemple.org or Black Swan Temple on IG, or Black Swan Temple on Facebook. So, yeah.
Viktoria Levenberg: And I mean, it’s everything you could imagine, right. Whether it’s in person — I mean, I highly recommend going to Hawaii in person and experiencing the magic first-hand. Like that trip, as I know I’ve already shared with you in reviews etc, like it was absolutely life-changing and mind-blowing.
Um, your pilgrimage to Egypt is coming up. Yes, Donny?
Donny Regal: Haha. Yeah, our pilgrimage — the Egypt, the Egyptian connection — has been so transformational for so many people. You know, there’s a, you know, I don’t like to think of myself as a teacher in any way. In any way, I’m… I’m just a, a guide along the journey. But the Egyptian thing is a remembrance.
It’s gonna remind you of something, part of yourself that is that divine being. Egyptians really were living that in the most incredible way. And the temples are incredible reflections. And the glyphs on the wall, it’s like a huge book. Every temple’s got writings everywhere. And you know, even though you don’t read Egyptian, there’s a transmission that goes on that is so life-changing.
And it’s part of the remember — it’s part of remembering. You know, like, I’ve never really, as even as a life coach, I never claim I’m teaching anybody anything. I am really just reminding you and everyone out there how incredible you all are, and, and how you’re… we’re all here to find, find our purpose, you know. And as we do that, the angels are gonna smile and life’s gonna get easier. I promise you.
Viktoria Levenberg: Yes, the green lights, the parking spaces — it all happens, right.
Like you’ve had those experiences, you’re like, “Oh, I’m in alignment with my divine timing,” hahaha.
Heather Salmon: Yeah.
Donny Regal: So, so you can find all about our Egypt pilgrimage, and our Maui ongoing Maui retreats, and we’re doing our free online stuff — yeah, Reiki retreats as well now. Um, so that’s all Black Swan Temple.
Viktoria Levenberg: Yes, and thank you for mentioning the monthly, uh, rituals that you do as well. I think that’s so incredibly generous. I think they’re donation-based, um, every either full or new moon. They’re incredible ceremonies, I’ve had the privilege of joining a few times myself.
Um, so yeah, I highly, highly recommend, uh, getting in touch with you two and just letting the transmissions come through. Because you carry a lot of wisdom, a lot of kindness and peace in your hearts. And so from the bottom of my heart, I’m just so, so incredibly grateful for you, for coming on. This has been an absolute joy.
Ah, so, so much love, and I cannot wait to see you in person again. I know it will come when it’s meant to. So I just trust that will be at the right time. And in the meantime, be safe, stay grounded, and lots of love and Aloha.
Heather Salmon & Donny Regal:
And Aloha.
Viktoria Levenberg: Aloha.
Viktoria Levenberg: Alright, my friends, this is it for our episode with Heather and Donny. I mean, if I could, I would just keep them on for hours and hours, because I want to learn from them probably just as much as you do.
Um, my personal insights, um, are truly around, um, the seven principles of Hermeticism. And I haven’t necessarily had as much exposure into those teachings, so this has definitely sparked a little, um, curiosity for me. And I’ll definitely be doing a little bit of my own research, uh, and learning there. Because you know, I’m a fellow nerd.
And what really stuck with me actually from our conversation is when Donny said that stress is a choice. I never actually looked at it that way, but he couldn’t be any more right. Because we have stressors in our life, which are the things that cause us stress. But then it is our choice about whether or not we stay stressed.
So just something to contemplate. And for your next action step, I really suggest checking out Heather and Donny’s site. They’ve got so many incredible offerings. I mean, there’s something there for anyone and everyone. Um, I am a loyal fan of theirs, as you can tell. And if you feel called to Egypt, please, please, please do join them. All the details will be linked up below.
It is such an incredible experience, from what they’ve shared. I mean, luxury retreat, deep teachings, transformation that isn’t possible anywhere else. And I can tell you one thing — is I will be going to Egypt. And when I do, I will be doing it with Heather and Donny, because there isn’t anyone else who I would trust more than these two incredible humans to guide me through this initiation.
So if you’re interested, definitely check out the links below. Thank you for listening. Lots of love. Bye for now.
Viktoria Levenberg: Alright, listen to this. I get asked by overworked, overwhelmed, burnt-out high achievers how they can release their stress without sacrificing their productivity all the time. And that is because I have been one of them. I’ve been able to heal my relationship with stress, all the while increasing my energy and achieve more than ever before at the same time.
So for the very first time ever — I’m so excited about this — I am going to be pulling together and teaching a really small, intimate, select group of students how to detox from stress. So that you can say bye-bye to burnout and overwhelm, and instead you can skyrocket your energy levels, all the while being more productive than ever before, with ease. Doesn’t that sound amazing?
So if that’s something that you’re interested in, if you are done struggling with stress and overworking, and you’d like to be a part of this special training — send me a message, let’s have a chat. I’d love to see you there.
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